Jed, I'm not sure what is the ethnic origin of Mary. But I was born and grown up in Italy. I have met several Italian scientists.
In fact, I met in person, and I have been at his house another LENR researcher of relatively old times: Renzo Boscoli (you can do a web search for him if you don't know who he is). I was young and naive at that time and I was fascinated by this modern "Leonardo", as it was introduced to me by a senior student friend of mine (we were both physics students at Universita' di Bologna at that time). Looking back I can see how amateurish and badly incorrect Boscoli's theories were (in particular the Cold Sun idea). I can say this about Italian science. For some reason, cultural and historical for certain, Italy has a certain tolerance for crackpotshness. Maybe it is the romantic idea of a self-taught genius as Leonardo was. Also while people are not gullible and in fact they have a certain keen sense of skepticism, there is a general sense of mutual trust based on counting on a strong community for support and help. Many business transactions are still dealt with a handshake. People that abuse the system are shunned and usually are not given many chances once exposed. Of course there are exceptions, corruptions of every kind but in general what I have described is what is innate in the Italian people. I can tell you strongly I don't like Rossi's attitude exactly because I'm Italian and he has abused even the tolerant Italian way of doing. If he is cheating then he will be very damaging to Italian science. He claims to have been a victim of the corrupted Italian system and I was open to accept that but then when you see how he followed the negative behavior (the oil from waste that never happened) with another (the recycling of gold and silver, presumably from waste again but it was instead money laundry) then you can see there is a precise pattern and the one's tolerance and understanding has to be changed immediately in extreme caution and in fact defensiveness. Yes, in the end reality is what matter. Rossi could be the worst person on earth but if his results are real then it doesn't matter. But Rossi 's behavior is not explainable by him being Italian. Quite the contrary. Giovanni On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jed, you have previously stated that you have private information on which >> you base your conclusions as to the reality of Rossi. Please cut the rest >> of us some slack! We have no way of knowing if your private information is >> sound, or if you have been misled, or if you have drawn unsound conclusions >> from what you know. >> > > Mainly what I know was revealed by McKubre in his recent talk: > > http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/McKubreMCHwhathappen.pdf > > See where it says "AmpEnerco Run I" > > These were independent tests done by Ampenergo before they made an > agreement with Rossi. Various experts participated, including someone > McKubre knows well. He trusts his expert. I know some of those people too, > and I trust them. That is not to suggest that I can judge calorimetry as > well as McKubre can! Far from it. But it isn't hard to judge these > results. These tests were similar to the public tests conducted by Rossi, > only they were independent, with someone else's instruments. Somewhat > better instruments, proper computers and so on, but basically the same sort > of HVAC test procedures. > > Okay, ask yourself this. Suppose you know that tests similar the 18-hour > February test and the October self-sustaining tests were done, with > instruments supplied and operated by someone you knew to be an expert, and > a trustworthy person. Would that convince you? If the answer is yes, you > can see why McKubre and I are pretty confident this result is real. On the > other hand, if the HVAC-style testing does not satisfy you, then you will > not be convinced. > > Mary Yugo has said she demands a blank run. As far as I know they did not > do one. I think she wants to see a Seebeck calorimeter. I am sure they did > not use that. So she would not be satisfied by these tests. > > That's all there is to it. I have no knowledge of Rossi's personal > business. For all I know he might be robbing dozens of investors. I do not > think he is. I have absolutely no knowledge of any such thing, no evidence, > and frankly I could not care less if he is robbing people. I am sure his > claims are real. That does not preclude the possibility that he is > defrauding people; it would mean he is defrauding them with a genuine cold > fusion reactor. Not my problem. > > Here is a key issue. Rossi's personality is an open book thanks to his > website. That is unique to the 21st century. People who dismiss him because > of his personality should think about that. Suppose in 1879 Edison had a > kept an Internet blog while he invented the incandescent light. Suppose > everyone could follow along with his trials and tribulations and his > frequent crazy ideas. Now, 140 years later, you can read detailed > biographies of him. You can read the lab notebooks. You can see why some of > his investors lost their nerve and sold out for pennies on the dollar as he > floundered around spending rivers of money, changing the design > radically, apparently getting nowhere. In my opinion, his comments were no > less extreme than Rossi's; his behavior no less erratic. That is true of > many other famous inventors. It is also true of many ordinary programmers, > chemists and others doing creative work that is worthy, difficult, but > never becomes famous. It is true of some top notch gourmet chefs; a guy I > know who can climb and cut down just about any tree with minimal equipment > but frightful risk; and many farmers and fishermen in Yamaguchi. People who > do extraordinary, creative, or dangerous things are sometimes odd. If they > were not odd, they would do these things. In the past, we did not know how > odd people such as Edison were until long after they became rich & famous, > when all their sins were forgiven. Now, with Rossi, we learn of it in real > time. > > My guess is that people such as Mary Yugo cannot look past Rossi's > personality because they have not read many biographies, diaries and > personal papers left by famous people. They have not met a broad range of > people from other cultures, or eccentric people, or downright crazy people. > I have. I mean that literally. I grew up encountering people who were > diagnosed with mental illness, in the era before effective > psychotropic drugs. You can read about them here: > > > http://books.google.com/books/about/The_psychiatric_halfway_house.html?id=8wsEAQAAIAAJ > > (The authors are my mother and my aunt.) > > In other words, I am used to discounting personality quirks, and looking > at the content of the work. That is not an easy thing to do. It is not > always a wise thing to do. It just happens I am good at it, because I have > had a lot of practice. > > - Jed > >
