Yes… after careful consideration, watching your behavior here and other
places, and other sources, and numerous attempts to explain to you the
purpose of this forum, which you just choose to ignore, that is my
conclusion.  If you’d care to take an anonymous vote of forum members, I
would be happy to comply if the majority don’t mind your barrage of
redundant postings.  It’s really a shame too, because you are an intelligent
person, but by your own admission, you are not interested in learning
anything about LENR – that just doesn’t fit in here at all.  All you choose
to do with that intelligence is point out the obvious shortcomings in this
ongoing saga, which are, well, obvious!  Out of your nearly 800 postings in
only a few months, way more than anyone on this forum, you have brought
really very little new or insightful information, which I am sure you are
very capable of doing.  You simply prefer to constantly point out the same
suspicions about Rossi and DGT… over and over and over again.  Several
people have left the forum because of your barrage of redundant postings.  I
bet you feel proud of that, eh?

 

I received an email many weeks ago from someone describing your behavior on
other websites, and after watching your behavior and responses since then,
I’d have to say that it turned out to be quite accurate.  Then the recent
postings here which brought to light that you’ve been banned on numerous
other websites, which you wear like a badge… and using ways to circumvent
the ban.  It is pathological to want to do those kinds of things; to force
yourself onto groups that have chosen to exclude you.  Yes, I think my
conclusions are very much supported by the facts.  You seem to think that it
is ok, even admirable, to impose your opinions where they are not welcome.
Why do you need to plaster your suspicions all over the net?  Every single
place mentioned on this forum about some new article about Rossi or DGT,
when I went to that webpage, there you were, sometimes the first to comment!
Gotta make sure to spread your suspicions in the comment section; point out
all the questionable details, over and over again.  Look around, Mary.
You’re the ONLY one on this forum who does that… pretty much tells me
everything I need to know about you.  Of all the E-Cat/DGT website articles
in the past year, I may have added a comment on one or two, but I have
better things to do than spread my opinions all over the net.  I’d rather
spend the time trying to understand the phenomenon, and maybe, by some very
small chance, help it gain acceptance.

 

In the past, you and Mr. Hope, and even Mr. Lawrence, have tried to make
this look like I’m only picking on the ‘skeptic’… that I don’t want to
listen to the skeptical side.  That is so ridiculous for this reason; I
never felt the need to chastise Cude, who is a MUCH stronger and MUCH more
effective skeptic than anyone on this list, even you.  Why?  Simple… he
sticks to the facts and science, backs up his positions with calculations
(and it only takes high school algebra to do most of them, so no excuses),
and, it was obvious that he read at least some of the LENR literature and
made an effort to become informed about the research; I did learn a thing or
two from his contributions.  I can respect that even if I disagree with some
of his positions; I most certainly disagree with his position that LENR is
all just a mistake and hasn’t advanced in decades because there is nothing
to it.  I’m sorry to say that after all of your nearly 800 postings, I just
don’t feel any level of respect for your behavior here… well, now that I
think of it, there was one thing -- your offer to help conduct a test of the
heat exchanger and manifold… to which I was most supportive and offered to
contribute to the $ side.  So you see, I am supportive of skeptical efforts
to learn more, *even yours*, when they are in line with the main purpose of
the forum.  And occasional off-topic stuff and other non-tech postings don’t
bother me at all… it’s just the constant barrage of stuff that has been
hashed over and over that I object to, and nearly all of your postings fall
into that category…

 

The main purpose of this forum is to discuss, do some testing, and hopefully
better understand what might be happening with unusual technologies such as
LENR, and if many here seem to cut Rossi/DGT some slack, so be it.  It’s not
because we are gullible or naïve;  we have analyzed the demos to death, and
are well aware of the issues and concerns.  We can look past behaviors and
conflicting statements, which PROVE nothing, and say to ourselves that there
is a decent chance that they just might have optimized the LENR reaction.
That comes from a more informed and knowledgeable background since we’ve
been following and discussing and some even participating in LENR research
for *decades*.  We have a good idea of just how much research has been done
on LENR, and possibly even inside information from people who are generous
enough to take time to brief someone on this forum  (BTW, if anonymity is
good enough for you, then it is for those insiders as well).   I think
nearly all the regulars here agree that LENR is a real phenomenon, and we
would like to try to understand it, and help support bringing it into
acceptance for a better world.  It seems like anyone would be supportive of
that, but your pathological need to constantly voice your concerns about
Rossi’s and DGT’s behaviors, their business practices and press releases,
and pointing out every little thing that could be considered ‘suspicious’,
is pretty much useless speculation and of little real value to this forum.
If you are so utterly compelled to do that, fine, just do it elsewhere if
it’s so damn important to you… oh, you’re probably banned from those other
sites… gee… perhaps we’re just too tolerant here... we certainly have been
with your excuse for anonymity.

 

I’m sorry that you choose to use your intelligence and time to barrage us
with the obvious inconsistencies, ‘warn’ us, and the whole internet for that
matter, about Rossi’s suspicious behaviors and the poorly done demos. Why
not try to help the forum understand the underlying technology?  It is a
technology, and very likely a scientific discovery, that will be the most
important development in our lifetime… in *your* lifetime.  Think about
that, Mary.  Given the purpose of this forum, would your kids be proud of
the way you’ve used your intelligence and time to ‘contribute’, and just how
helpful were those efforts?

 

Sleep well…

-Mark

 

From: Mary Yugo [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in
understanding these things

 

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
<[email protected]> wrote:

She’s an insignificant troll… nothing more.

Was that a calculated statement?   Your behavior is so intelligent and
dignified statement, Mark.  You should be proud of it and of yourself.

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