On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
> -----Original Message----- > > There has been way too much chicken-counting here. Yet, since this is an > advocacy group - its mission is not to prejudge and chastise - and this > situation provide an inherent conflict in perspective. > I would think that the mission is not to take claims on faith and to do the best possible job of evaluating them correctly. Perhaps we should be pleased that intelligent skeptics have chosen to post > here, and most of their objections are valid, albeit repetitive, ad > nauseum. > Yet - they would not be here if they did not recognize this as the most > important "potential" breakthrough in technology since atomic energy. A few > of them, I suspect are here because they "want to be convinced". > Want to be convinced? How about "want to know the facts and the truth"? I just hope that these same skeptics will stay around to chew a bit of shoe > leather, when independent data comes in - which is just around the corner > ... but isn't it always :-). IOW there could be convincing data on the > scientific end soon - but even so, even the advocates must admit that a > commercial product is years away. My guess is three years at the earliest. > Rossi is quite clear that his target is to make a million units in calendar year 2012. Defkalion are quite clear about a target for 300,000 larger and more powerful machines in about the same time frame. They say they are getting independent testing "soon". Do you not believe them? Are they lying? > In short, let us be clear that the blue box DID perform in a strongly OU > fashion, for a short time for the customer, but not reliably. This is > essentially the same reason why DGT backed out of the deal - and they did > not renege - it is Rossi who could not deliver a device that works for more > than a few hours. > I'm really curious about why you think there *is* a customer. What do you know about it other than what Rossi said? And even Jed admits Rossi has a low regard for the truth. And remember, Rossi invited scientists and reporters to that test and then did not allow them to see any of the data being taken so the data Rossi provided, such as it is, has to be taken entirely on faith as well. The E-Cat presently does have periods of infinite OU - but still has extreme > NEGATIVE economic value, since the issues involved in keeping it running > outweigh the value of heat it delivers. That will not change for some time. > You simply cannot pay a staff of scientists to baby-sit a big box that only > gives back a small fraction of their salaries. > > Many of us suspected this all along - that the technology is real but the > implementation is ... not just premature, but closer to an abortion. > I can't agree with that. If the technology (I mean Rossi's and Defkalion's claims, not LENR/cold fusion in general) were real, it would be possible to mobilize a huge force of talent and money to tame it and make it work optimally. There is not one shred of evidence that either Rossi or Defkalion is doing that or planning to.
