Vorl,
RE: frenzied chicken counting...
I suggest you go back in the Vortex-l archive to ~Feb 2011, and start
reading.  This is long *before* MY showed up, and you will find plenty of
skepticism from the usual contributors here, including myself.  There were
postings about Petroldragon, the non-performing TEC, the problems with the
E-Cat demos, the sometimes contradictory statements by Rossi and DGT. Very
few were counting chickens. Yes, most of us were 'hopeful', and still are,
but for some reason, you and MY think that things are black and white,
either/or.  It seems that you and MY think that being 'hopeful' blinds us to
the negative aspects; that being 'hopeful' turns our skeptical mind off.  I
reject that assumption without reservation because the evidence/facts do not
support it. To really understand this forum, you need to be here for at
least a year; or at least study a year's worth of postings...

I'll bet that when the E-Cat controversy is all over, whether or not Rossi
or DGT are successful, that Mary will stop contributing to this forum, but
the regulars will be here for many years to come; some, literally, until
they die. You are probably not aware of it, but the Collective saw two very
ol' timers die last year.  They are missed.  That's what makes this forum
different from nearly all others that I'm aware of.  It has lasted for over
15 years, with many of the same people.  You cannot say that about many
similar discussion groups... none that I'm aware of.  They come and go in a
few years.

When an E-Cat demo had taken place, MY had some valuable comments, and I
never chastised her, or anyone, for that kind of contribution.  Analyzing
those demos is a horse that has long ago been beaten to a pulp. By now, each
person has established some level of 'truth' to whether they think the E-Cat
is functioning in an OU manner.  For the last two months, which is about
half the time Mary has been posting here, the only thing going on are
business-related activities which involve personalities and business
practices.  If a person has NO inside information about DGT or Rossi's biz,
then the only thing they can do is *speculate* on developments; speculations
are not 'truth', which Mary claims to be her only objective.

Tell me Vorl, what 'truth' has come from all of the speculations and
suspicions of scam that have been dumped on this forum for that last two
months???  None that hadn't existed PRIOR to the dumping.

-Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Vorl Bek [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 4:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in
understanding these things

I think MY is doing a good job here. If it were not for her, Cude, and a few
others, this place would see a frenzy of chicken-counting before the
hatching takes place, at least when it comes to Rossi.

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