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Bob Higgins stated: Where does the 50-100g cell size come from? Will it work just as well in 1g cells? Unknown. Axits comments: In his post on this thread, JoJo Jaro talks about the evolution of Rossi’s deployment of micro-powder from a pile to a thin sprinkling over a wide area. JoJo Jaro states: his "FAT Cat" design. If I remember correctly, his home E-Cat was shaped like a laptop with the reactor itself being only 20x20x1 cm in dimensions. This is essentially two metal plates separated by a thin layer of pressurized hydrogen. The nickel is spread out thinly over the surface of the plate. The Rydberg effect is a surface electrostatic effect that cannot penetrate deeply into the pile of micro-powder. In Rossi’s early designs where the micro-powder was packed into a cylinder, the interior of the cylinder of powder was electrostatically shielded by the surface of its upper powder layer. To get the reaction activity that he was after, Rossi had to make the pile of powder much bigger than it needed to be. In his current design, he attempts to expose the surface of every micro-grain to the electrostatic field produced by the Rydberg matter. This increases the efficiency of the powder to near 100% with every grain contributing to the reaction. This is why he when from an early cylindrical layout with lots of powder, to his current flat rectangular plate like layout with a small amount of powder. Regards: axil On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>wrote: > Of course, I was not there to personally witness any of the hardware or > the testing. I am working entirely from second hand reports of what was > done. > > Rossi appears to have been well versed in the behavior of his smaller, > early systems in terms of warm-up, self-sustain, re-start/maintenance > modes. He apparently had difficulty getting the self-sustain mode to last > for sufficient time and that may have been the bone of contention with DGT, > his partner at the time. At the time he also appears to have had a > relationship with Upsalla (Kullander/Essen) who appeared to at least > influence the design of the "ottoman" class reactors. It appears that the > "frequencies" input was first shown as part of the ottoman reactor. I > surmise it was designed to help stimulate the self-sustain reaction by > allowing the operation at lowest H2 pressure without spontaneous > statistical cooling and drop-out of reaction because of cooling. The > "frequencies" seem to have averaged out the reaction - making it less > statistically chaotic. The frequencies are not required for the effect to > occur, but only appear to have been added to stabilize it. > > An interesting, but un-discussed observation has to do with the individual > reactor size. Rossi's original small eCats were using a 50g charge of > fuel. It appeared that his Ottoman design used 3 internal reaction cells > that were each in the 50-100g range. DGT's reactor seems to be in this > 50-100g range for a reactor cell. The question that arises is, "Is there a > large scale collective effect (similar to a critical mass) that is required > to make this reaction stable and repeatable?" Where does the 50-100g cell > size come from? Will it work just as well in 1g cells? Unknown. > > In Peter's post on the nanoparticles and plasmons ... It is interesting > that nanoparticles are sized in a commensurate number of atoms that will > both support plasmons and Rydberg condensates. Could the two phenomena be > related or at least coupled? > > My expectation is that in a typical 50g charge of fuel, there may be > ~10^18 nanosites dispersed on the nickel micropowder. Rossi claimed 5kW > for 6 months on this charge which is 7.8x10^10 joules. Presuming that 50% > of the nanosites were active and consumed in this period, then each > nanosite would have supplied ~4x10^-8 joule/active nanosite = > ~240GeV/active nanosite. If we "guestimate" ~25MEV/transmutation > (estimated in D+D->He), then each active nanosite would be providing about > 10,000 transmutations. This is not an unrealistic number of transmutations > to occur in a ring around the nanosite on the nickel where the > nanosite itself was an area containing 1000 nanopowder atoms - at least > from a rough order of magnitude. > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> Correct me if I am wrong… >> >> >> >> The “frequencies" generator was used in the 1 MW test in self-sustain >> mode only after the reactor got up to temperature and the internal heater >> was placed in sleep mode. >> >> >> >> Since self-sustain mode was a relatively new development associated with >> and as a feature of the big 1 MW reactor, its use may not be directly >> correlated with lowered H2 pressure. >> >
