At 12:25 PM 4/9/2012, [email protected] wrote:

Abd,

First, thanks for putting in so much effort into your review.

I think most of us find the reaction pathways bewildering complicated.

I am perplexed, though, that you say that McKubre's experiments provide no
evidence for W-L theory, since he is now a technical advisor for Brillouin
Energy.  Brillouin's video claims that (W-L theory) electron capture
initiates a reaction chain that ends with alpha-particle production.

I'm, in turn, perplexed by your perplexity. What does McKubre being a technical advisor for Brillouin Energy have to do with whether or not his experimental work (which Larsen attempts to shoot down) provides "evidence for W-L theory."?

McKubre is a consultant, hired to do this or that. I'd guess Brillouin is paying him. It increased their credibility, but, again, whether or not they have an operating reactor is not established by the fact of McKubre's being an advisor -- if that's true, I haven't heard it from him.

Nor is the theory used to explain their results relevant. If they developed the device based on predictions of the theory, that could have some relevance. Did they? What predictions? Has this been published?


Do you communicate with McKubre and have any update on his theory?
- especially wrt Brillouin's LENR hypothesis.

I do communicate with McKubre, on occasion, but one of the reasons I can communicate with McKubre is that I don't ask him questions unless I need to have an answer from him. I don't, not about this, not at this point. If I do, I'll ask.

Note that my concern has been and remains, for the most part, PdD results. NiH is very possibly a different animal, and it may be, for example, that the products are different and that there is radiation from NiH.

This is really very, very simple. Scientific theories are, as part of the scientific method, developed to predict experimental outcomes. A scientific theory is "successful" if it increases predictability over that state of knowledge -- or ignorance -- that precededs it.

That does not mean that the theory is "true." It merely means that it is useful.

So, is W-L theory useful? How? Where has it shown *predictions* that could not otherwise have been anticipated?

Post-hoc analysis of experimental data is interesting and can suggest hypothesis formation, but is not adequate, normally.

There is a gray area. If there are complex experimental results, and a theory, upon analysis, can be shown as *accurately* predicting the results, it enters an intermediate state, a state where it may be entitled to some assumption of usefulness, but this should properly always be subject to verification (or falsification).

I do not see any experimental reports where this was attempted. And it could easily be done, W-L theory does make possible some quantitative predictions. Where is that work?

Missing.

There is also no post-hoc analysis showing quantitative predictions, only some results that are then cited as confirmation of the theory *without* quantitative analysis. And that seem to make no sense as realizations of the theory when examined. I.e., that claim that the 31 MeV findings confirm W-L theory because a reaction can be postulated that was designed to fit 31 MeV, but there is no explanation even attempted as to why this particular reaction would so dominate. Rather, it's assumed that because the result was 31 MeV, the reaction must be the one picked. Out of a large family of reactions that could have been asserted. And that reaction requires multiple activations, which seem totally unlikely.

So not only no experimental confirmation, there no post-hoc analysis to even establish W-L theory as reasonably possible.

Instead there is a barrage of what seems to be irrelevant information, speculation about a "carbon cycle," without the experimental observation to establish is. All woven together, effectively obscuriing the radical unlikelihood of what is being claimed, because the reasons that it would be unlikely are *ignored.*

Without experimental confirmation of the elements of the theory, it's a house of cards. Given that confirmation *should be* easy, what's going on? If it's not easy, where are the reports of attempts and failures?

Absent. It could be like Rossi. Larsen, asked about experimental confirmation of gamma screening, years ago, responded that this was proprietary information. Great. Might even be true. But ... sorry, we do not develop a community understanding of scientific fact based on secret information!

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