On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>wrote:


> W-L theory allows for a farrago of proposed reactions, so one can pick and
> choose for a large and complex field, to find a reaction that might explain
> a particular result. And that the required reaction series might be
> way-silly-improbable is ignored. Essentially, there will be, if W-L theory
> of neutron formation is correct, there will be N neutrons being formed. It
> is proposed that these have a very high absorption rate, so N
> transmutations will be caused. But this is N/T, where T is the total number
> of possible targets. (Roughly.) A transmuted element becomes just another
> target, and would presumably be exposed to the same neutron flux. The
> probability of a second reaction in the "cycle" would be the square of N/T.
>  That would be, for all intents and purposes, close to zero.


Can you further explain this calculation?  Are you assuming a low flux,
where N/T << 1?  You're also thinking that T is large and includes the
Palladium atoms in the lattice?


> The intermediate product would be left.  If neutrons are being created in
> significant numbers, we would expect to see specific results that are not
> observed, and gammas are only one aspect of this.


I think you mentioned a great deal of heat as being another missing
observable in addition to gamma radiation.  Just to make sure I understand
your position -- you're relying on branching ratios and reactions that are
known from previous experience with fusion?  I have no reason to doubt this
approach, I'm just trying to understand.  What are the other
missing observables in addition to heat and gamma rays?


> Looking through some of the other slides, what Larsen is doing is
> searching through experimental records, finding anomalies that W-L theory
> *might* explain. There is an absence of quantitative analysis.


I think Jed had a nice thread about the merits of qualitative analysis not
too long ago, but point taken.


> There is an absence of clear experimental prediction.


A good indicator of wishy-washy thinking.


> This is pure ad-hoc speculation, and all it can do, scientifically, is to
> suggest avenues for exploration.


Arriving at new avenues for exploration doesn't seem all that bad a result,
but we should strive for better.

Just to make sure I understand your position -- you don't like neutron flux
because you don't find sufficient evidence for it and you find strong
evidence against it.  For there to be sufficient flux to have a "carbon
cycle" and so on would entail effects that aren't seen experimentally, such
as high levels of heat.  You don't see a strict requirement for a D+D -> He
reaction, but you see compelling reason not to give serious consideration
to alpha decay.

Regarding transmutations, such as that of Barium into Samarium reported in
Iwamura et al. [1], you either find evidence for them to be unreliable and
ultimately untenable, or, alternatively, something that arises by a process
other than neutron flux.

Have I misunderstood anything?

Eric

[1] Iwamura et al., "Observation of Nuclear Transmutation Reactions Induced
by D2Gas Permeation Through Pd Complexes,"
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006cmns...11..339I (I'm having trouble
finding the lenr-canr.org version, but I have a copy of the PDF if you'd
like one)

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