The actual BC was shown to the press???? Baloney.
What was shown to the press was a printout of the BC they posted on the web
site, which we know was a fake. Show me a BC like the ones the Nordyke
twins have. Why should bambi BC be different from the long form BC the
Nordyke twins got from Hawaii authorites?
Jojo
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From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[email protected]>
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At 11:08 AM 8/9/2012, ecat builder wrote:
There are many questions about Obama's past.
It is an indisputable fact that the "Long Form Birth Certificate" posted
on the <http://whitehouse.gov>whitehouse.gov web site manipulated in
photoshop. The moron who created the PDF forgot to flatten all of the
layers, so that anyone could go in an move important parts of the document
around, including the registrar's stamp. What parts of the document are
accurate, and why was it altered at all? The state of HI uses a number of
weasel words to say he was born here without backing it up with an actual
document.
No, the actual document was shown to the press. Printed on that special
paper. The clumsiness with the PDF actually shows naivete, not
sophisticated forgery, for sure. You don't think that the President could
access some sophisticated forgery skills if needed. Look, anybody could
have done "better."
People alter stuff to publish it. Happens all the time. I don't know the
provenance of the images people are looking at, what they went through.
But a visible change between that document and what is in the Hawaii book
would be easily discoverable, a really stupid forgery, when the original
exists and can be accessed with a court order.
A number of explanations are possible-- when Obama was adopted by his
Indonesian father, the birth certificate may have been modified or
altered, as is often the case with adoptions. The actual BC may have been
lost or destroyed.
Modified in a PDF file?
As is often the case with adoptions? No, this is ignorant. Birth
certificates are not altered for adoptions. There are additional
certificates that can be obtained, for various purposes, but they do not
contain false information. They might merely conceal some information. The
certificate that has been published is the long form, which is a signed
and attested document, attested by, in this case, the mother and the
attending physician.
I personally doubt Obama was born in Kenya, but Obama is hiding something,
or playing a strange game with millions of taxpayer and campaign dollars.
There have been dozens of lawsuits claiming he may be ineligible that
could be resolved (perhaps) with the presentation of a birth certificate.
All fail due to "lack of standing" but still require hundreds of hours of
court work.
Sure. And who is responsible for that. Ecat builder, Obama released the
long form. He had to go to special trouble to get that, the state did not
want to issue it. (They don't want to have to dig through those archives.)
It looks to me like the "birthers" have had some success in confusing
people about this.
A US military doctor had questions and tried to assure himself that Obama
was constitutionally eligible to hold office and ended up in
Leavenworth... Poor judgement on his part, but again, easily solved had
Obama not played hide-and-seek with his records.
The state certified the birth. That people doubted that is not the fault
of the state, nor of Obama. The doctor, I'm quite sure, did not end up in
Leavenworth merely because he tried to "assure himself."
Of course, Jojo makes a good point that having dual citizenship at birth
would make someone ineligible as "Natural Born Citizen", which might
explain O's reluctance to enter evidence into a court. The constitution
was written so that the president could not be a commander from an
invading country or have divided loyalties.
It's unclear why it was written the way it was. It was apparently a
last-minute change. Dual citizenship does not disqualify one from being
President. There is no precedent for that. It's something that voters can
consider.
As this author points out, the biggest question is Obama's story of
attending Occidental where he was a self-admitted pot-smoking bad
student.. how did he get in? Why does nobody remember him? Who paid for
his college? Was he enrolled as a foreigner? What were his grades?
<http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/>http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/
OMG. He admitted smoking pot? Now I really need to go out and campaign for
him. He was a bad student? What a success story, then!
Jed is not the only one who thinks that anyone who doesn't fawn over Obama
is a racist.
I haven't seen evidence for racism here. Just stupidity, which apparently
can exist among racists and non-racists. Though most people are racist to
one degree or other. That's quite another discussion. The older, highly
permicious racism is mostly dead, afraid to show its face. But a more
insidious racism still exists. If you don't understand it, it's because
you'e white.
That's a joke, though under the joke might be some truth.
Let me remind everyone about how most conservatives also didn't like
Carter, Clinton, and many were not fond of GW. We are equal opportunity
bashers of inept leadership and are quick to "eat our own". But Obama
does have a long and sordid past with communists (Bill Ayres, Frank
Marshal Davis) and was ranked the most liberal Senator. He is aligned
with the Democratic Socialists of America and their offshoot, the New
Party.
OMG, now I *really* need to get out and campaign for him.
(Anyone who is "communist" today is a certifiable nut case, pretty much.
I'm interested in people with open minds, and like, for example, Ron Paul.
Doesn't mean that I agree with him on this or that, but he'd certainly
have made a better President than our friend Romney. Or Mcain.)
