Axil,

A Muon event will exhibit a Green Glow:

http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys200/lectures/icecube/icecube.html

Would be a good explanation in case Russ is "Popping Matter" in that
device, which I think he might be...

Stewart
Darkmattersalot.com

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Russ Gries has released a new research video titled #14, to pin down what
> the green glow is.
>
> This glow develops after the spark discharge occurs. Russ wants to find
> out how the glow forms and how it relates to pre-ionization of the second
> follow on spark.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0SwbtaZ...detailpage<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0SwbtaZ00&feature=player_detailpage>
>
> On the net, I looked into some new possible causes for the green glow and
> have found three new possible sources as follows:
>
> One, fast electrons moving in a high vacuum will glow green near the
> cathode.
>
> Two, glass will phosphoresce when impacted by fast electrons.
>
> Three, helium atoms will phosphoresce when impacted by electrons.
>
> From viewing the video in my opinion, electron impact on Helium atoms
> seems to be the most likely cause of the mysterious green glow.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Next, by using the pressure developed in the popper during spark
> discharge, Russ was surprised that he was not able to break his grandma’s
> Christmas glass that he was using to view how the green glow developes.
>
> Because of this, veiwing video #14 leads me to the following observation;
> the forces produced by the popper are electromagnetic in nature and a metal
> surface is required inside the popper to produce force.
>
> Some gas pressure develops in the glass cylinder but that pressure is not
> forceful enough to contribute to the compression reaction observed when a
> piston is installed in the popper.
>
> In the near future from the view point of experimentation, one important
> observation that should so be made is to measure this pressure increase of
> the gas to see if it has any role in the movement of the piston.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> In regards to the next observation, this popper demo shows that during the
> ionization glow stage, all the wires connecting the popper to the
> capacitors shake until the ionization phase is over.
>
> The wires must be under some stress or force from the ionization process.
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Next, when micro-sized metal fragments are occasionally generated by
> sputtering fragmentation of the electrodes, the green ionization glow is
> minimized. These metal fragment(s) must localize and concentrate the
> electron charge contained within the plasma.
>
> Can this be Anderson localization of the electron charge around the
> fragment? In a solid metal, electron charge accumulates around crystal
> imperfections in the metal lattice. Maybe the some sort of thing can occur
> in gas plasma.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> In the near future from the view point of suggested experimentation, one
> important observation that should be made is to suspend different types of
> material on strings from the top of the glass cylinder and watch for
> movement of the material that may be imparted by the plasma onto the
> material.
>
> The material that the piston head is made out of might impact the upward
> force produced by the piston due to material’s electromagnetic
> characteristics.
>
> Also, it would be interesting to see experimentally if the material is
> heated by the localization of ionization charge onto the material.
>
> Some material that should be tested is aluminum, copper, nickel(metal from
> a coin), steel, stainless steel, iron, carbon, wax, plastic.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> It looks like Russ has wires connected to the feedback current removal
> terminals on the sides of the popper, but I can’t tell is the feedback
> current is being removed from the popper and dissipated.
>
> If the feedback current is not being removed from the popper,
> experimentally remove the feedback current from the popper; if the feedback
> current is removed from the cylinder, does the green glow still occur?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The way electrical current flows through the popper is a complicated
> affair. Charge is being fed into the popper and simultaneously being
> dissipated from the popper.
>
> The discharge capacitors don’t fully drain because they become blocked
> from further current flow by a resisting charge buildup in the popper.
>
> Only after this charge buildup in the gas is sufficiently dissipated does
> the second lower intensity pop occur.
>
> The delayed second capacitor discharge occurs only when the remaining
> blocked latent residual 100 volt charge is equal to or greater than the
> green ionization charge in the popper. The ion intensity of the green glow
> must be reduced enough to enable the open spark capacitor circuit to
> re-fire.
>
>
> Cheers:    axil
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Vortex,
>>
>> Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas
>> that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?)
>> force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power
>> remains to be seen.
>>
>> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor
>>
>>
>>
>> An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26
>> yr old whiz named Russ.
>> He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on
>> Bob's test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more.
>> I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas
>> mixtures.
>>
>> http://rwgresearch.com/
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u
>> http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659
>> Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at
>> 12 pages and is filled with interesting tidbits.
>>
>>
>> Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM
>> Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a
>> bang...
>>
>>
>> Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains
>> 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2
>> included spark coils.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp
>>
>> Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the
>> potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running
>> without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of
>> the force, showing that compressed air is not used.
>> http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u
>>
>> All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a
>> lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed.
>>
>> - Brad
>>
>>
>>
>

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