This is a suggestion and a request for feedback regarding testing and development of the Papp engine.
It seems to me that a potential cost effective way to get the Papp piston instrumented to record how it reacts to experimental detonations of various gas mixtures is to use a Single-Axis, High-g, iMEMS Accelerometer that can be mounted on the piston stem. http://www.analog.com/en/mems-sensors/mems-inertial-sensors/adxl193/products/product.html#product-samples-nav This type of accelerometer can sustain a maximum acceleration of up to 4000G. They are also cheap with a cost of under $10. It will not break the bank to upgrade the performance of the accelerometer through chip replacement if the shock performance is too low. The output of the accelerometer chip can be fed into an oscilloscope to visualize the output data. This type of detector may be more sensitive than a gas pressure change detector for characterizing the force imparted onto the piston by the blast wave of the spark. Also, it may be possible to setup a circuit that might measure the speed of the shockwave traveling through the gas by determining the Delta- time difference from the first application of the current producing the spark discharge to the associated induced piston reaction movement as measured through the output of the accelerometer. It also may be possible to calculate the force that the piston produces from the output profile of the accelerometer. Reaction and suggestions to this idea are now solicited. Cheers: Axil On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Vortex, > > Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas > that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?) > force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power > remains to be seen. > > http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor > > > > An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26 yr > old whiz named Russ. > He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on Bob's > test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more. > I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas > mixtures. > > http://rwgresearch.com/ > https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u > http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659 > Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at 12 > pages and is filled with interesting tidbits. > > > Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM > Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a > bang... > > > Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains > 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2 > included spark coils. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp > > Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the > potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running > without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of > the force, showing that compressed air is not used. > http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html > https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u > > All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a > lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed. > > - Brad > > >

