Russ Gries has released a new research video titled #14, to pin down what the green glow is.
This glow develops after the spark discharge occurs. Russ wants to find out how the glow forms and how it relates to pre-ionization of the second follow on spark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0SwbtaZ...detailpage<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0SwbtaZ00&feature=player_detailpage> On the net, I looked into some new possible causes for the green glow and have found three new possible sources as follows: One, fast electrons moving in a high vacuum will glow green near the cathode. Two, glass will phosphoresce when impacted by fast electrons. Three, helium atoms will phosphoresce when impacted by electrons. >From viewing the video in my opinion, electron impact on Helium atoms seems to be the most likely cause of the mysterious green glow. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Next, by using the pressure developed in the popper during spark discharge, Russ was surprised that he was not able to break his grandma’s Christmas glass that he was using to view how the green glow developes. Because of this, veiwing video #14 leads me to the following observation; the forces produced by the popper are electromagnetic in nature and a metal surface is required inside the popper to produce force. Some gas pressure develops in the glass cylinder but that pressure is not forceful enough to contribute to the compression reaction observed when a piston is installed in the popper. In the near future from the view point of experimentation, one important observation that should so be made is to measure this pressure increase of the gas to see if it has any role in the movement of the piston. ------------------------------------------------------------------ In regards to the next observation, this popper demo shows that during the ionization glow stage, all the wires connecting the popper to the capacitors shake until the ionization phase is over. The wires must be under some stress or force from the ionization process. ------------------------------------------------------------- Next, when micro-sized metal fragments are occasionally generated by sputtering fragmentation of the electrodes, the green ionization glow is minimized. These metal fragment(s) must localize and concentrate the electron charge contained within the plasma. Can this be Anderson localization of the electron charge around the fragment? In a solid metal, electron charge accumulates around crystal imperfections in the metal lattice. Maybe the some sort of thing can occur in gas plasma. --------------------------------------------------------------- In the near future from the view point of suggested experimentation, one important observation that should be made is to suspend different types of material on strings from the top of the glass cylinder and watch for movement of the material that may be imparted by the plasma onto the material. The material that the piston head is made out of might impact the upward force produced by the piston due to material’s electromagnetic characteristics. Also, it would be interesting to see experimentally if the material is heated by the localization of ionization charge onto the material. Some material that should be tested is aluminum, copper, nickel(metal from a coin), steel, stainless steel, iron, carbon, wax, plastic. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- It looks like Russ has wires connected to the feedback current removal terminals on the sides of the popper, but I can’t tell is the feedback current is being removed from the popper and dissipated. If the feedback current is not being removed from the popper, experimentally remove the feedback current from the popper; if the feedback current is removed from the cylinder, does the green glow still occur? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The way electrical current flows through the popper is a complicated affair. Charge is being fed into the popper and simultaneously being dissipated from the popper. The discharge capacitors don’t fully drain because they become blocked from further current flow by a resisting charge buildup in the popper. Only after this charge buildup in the gas is sufficiently dissipated does the second lower intensity pop occur. The delayed second capacitor discharge occurs only when the remaining blocked latent residual 100 volt charge is equal to or greater than the green ionization charge in the popper. The ion intensity of the green glow must be reduced enough to enable the open spark capacitor circuit to re-fire. Cheers: axil On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Vortex, > > Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas > that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?) > force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power > remains to be seen. > > http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor > > > > An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26 yr > old whiz named Russ. > He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on Bob's > test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more. > I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas > mixtures. > > http://rwgresearch.com/ > https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u > http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659 > Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at 12 > pages and is filled with interesting tidbits. > > > Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM > Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a > bang... > > > Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains > 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2 > included spark coils. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp > > Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the > potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running > without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of > the force, showing that compressed air is not used. > http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html > https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u > > All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a > lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed. > > - Brad > > >
