I still think you're barking up the wrong tree with this dark matter stuff.
 Clearly, the only substance that can orbit the earth at a velocity orders
of magnitude above escape velocity, as you posit it must, is hamburger.
 Why do I say this?  Because in order to overcome the tendency to take off
on a hyperbolic trajectory, the substance must have a helper.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Axil,
>
> One thing I have noticed in my dark matter model for a particle is that
> when a dark matter nucleus is subject to more dense matter on one side of
> it (i.e. water), it converts the matter to energy and shoots it out the
> opposite side in order to have equilibrium on both sides, like a...comet
> nucleus does with it's ion tail.  That bow/shock wave is also what I
> believe is leading to many massive fish/mammal kills underwater by these
> particles when they are orbiting around us and into the Earth.
>
> Lastly, there is a crazy guy on his blog saying that he solved the Bermuda
> Triangle mystery, something about orbiting weakly interacting massive
> particles, contrails and sucking in airplanes.
>
> http://darkmattersalot.com
>
> Stewart
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> “In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
>> surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining effect,
>> possibly involving bow waves and casimir forces, although I was not left
>> totally convinced by LeClair's casimir force explanation.
>>
>> Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface is
>> important for this second effect to be self sustaining. It appears that
>> there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing into
>> the metal or leaving the metal surface. I feel there is a clue here
>> somewhere”
>>
>> The self-sustaining structure that preserves the positive water ionic
>> crystal is a plasmoid.
>>
>> A plasmoid is a coil of negative and positive electric currents that form
>> a ball with the positive ions on the inside and the negative electrons on
>> the outside.
>>
>> The plasmoid is self-sustaining as it converts LENR reaction energy into
>> electromagnetic current flow.
>>
>>
>> The tendency of electrons to flow along the surface of a metal would keep
>> the plasmoid from penetrating the surface of the metal substrate.
>>
>>
>> Cheers:   Axil
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Nigel Dyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Having discussed what he appears to have seen with Mark L, I ended up
>>> coming to the conclusion that there are possibly two separate effects that
>>> we may need to consider.
>>>
>>> First there is whatever it is that happens within the cavitation bubble
>>> that starts the process off.  In situations where cavitation causes damage
>>> to nearby surfaces this is probably the only effect in town.
>>>
>>> In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
>>> surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining effect,
>>> possibly involving bow waves and casimir forces, although I was not left
>>> totally convinced by LeClair's casimir force explanation.
>>>
>>> Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface is
>>> important for this second effect to be self sustaining.   It appears that
>>> there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing into
>>> the metal or leaving the metal surface.   I feel there is a clue here
>>> somewhere
>>>
>>> Nigel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/11/2012 03:39, Axil Axil wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested in the possible association of
>>>> zero-point-energy/**electrostatic based supersonic shockwave
>>>> acceleration
>>>> processes that occur as a consequence of ionic crystal formation during
>>>> cavatation bubble collapse and the closely related plasma reaction in
>>>> the
>>>> Papp engine which might occur in the plasmoid formation process in heavy
>>>> noble gases.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Plasmoid that is formed by the spark discharge in a noble gas mix
>>>> might
>>>> be analogous to what happens in the collapse of a single large
>>>> cavatation
>>>> bubble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Plasmoid both acts like and might be thought of as a manifestation
>>>> of a
>>>> single large collapsing cavitation bubble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In more detail, what Mark LeClair has observed as positive ionic
>>>> crystallization formation in water that is catalyzed in the high
>>>> pressure
>>>> plasma generation during cavatation in water may also be happening in
>>>> ionic
>>>> positively charge  krypton and xenon crystal formation in the Papp
>>>> reaction.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe that this idea is justifiable since cavatation damage also
>>>> occurs
>>>> in liquid sodium and molten salt pumps at levels of up to ten times more
>>>> intense as is happening in water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Positive ionic crystallization formation can happen in many types of
>>>> ionic
>>>> elements and chemical compounds in both liquids and gases.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a recent YouTube based interview covering cavitation with Mark
>>>> LeClair.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=a7Gqd34R5OQ<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Gqd34R5OQ>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In this interview, Mark LeClair believes that LENR happens in
>>>> cavatation.
>>>> But  a deeper level of abstraction is needed in his thinking.  LENR
>>>> actually is based on the action of positively charged ionic super-atomic
>>>> crystals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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