They weakly react via gravity, that is all they need.  You can keep the
hamburgers.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still think you're barking up the wrong tree with this dark matter
> stuff.  Clearly, the only substance that can orbit the earth at a velocity
> orders of magnitude above escape velocity, as you posit it must, is
> hamburger.  Why do I say this?  Because in order to overcome the tendency
> to take off on a hyperbolic trajectory, the substance must have a helper.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Axil,
>>
>> One thing I have noticed in my dark matter model for a particle is that
>> when a dark matter nucleus is subject to more dense matter on one side of
>> it (i.e. water), it converts the matter to energy and shoots it out the
>> opposite side in order to have equilibrium on both sides, like a...comet
>> nucleus does with it's ion tail.  That bow/shock wave is also what I
>> believe is leading to many massive fish/mammal kills underwater by these
>> particles when they are orbiting around us and into the Earth.
>>
>> Lastly, there is a crazy guy on his blog saying that he solved the
>> Bermuda Triangle mystery, something about orbiting weakly interacting
>> massive particles, contrails and sucking in airplanes.
>>
>> http://darkmattersalot.com
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> “In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
>>> surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining effect,
>>> possibly involving bow waves and casimir forces, although I was not left
>>> totally convinced by LeClair's casimir force explanation.
>>>
>>> Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface is
>>> important for this second effect to be self sustaining. It appears that
>>> there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing into
>>> the metal or leaving the metal surface. I feel there is a clue here
>>> somewhere”
>>>
>>> The self-sustaining structure that preserves the positive water ionic
>>> crystal is a plasmoid.
>>>
>>> A plasmoid is a coil of negative and positive electric currents that
>>> form a ball with the positive ions on the inside and the negative electrons
>>> on the outside.
>>>
>>> The plasmoid is self-sustaining as it converts LENR reaction energy into
>>> electromagnetic current flow.
>>>
>>>
>>> The tendency of electrons to flow along the surface of a metal would
>>> keep the plasmoid from penetrating the surface of the metal substrate.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers:   Axil
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Having discussed what he appears to have seen with Mark L, I ended up
>>>> coming to the conclusion that there are possibly two separate effects that
>>>> we may need to consider.
>>>>
>>>> First there is whatever it is that happens within the cavitation bubble
>>>> that starts the process off.  In situations where cavitation causes damage
>>>> to nearby surfaces this is probably the only effect in town.
>>>>
>>>> In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
>>>> surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining effect,
>>>> possibly involving bow waves and casimir forces, although I was not left
>>>> totally convinced by LeClair's casimir force explanation.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface
>>>> is important for this second effect to be self sustaining.   It appears
>>>> that there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing
>>>> into the metal or leaving the metal surface.   I feel there is a clue here
>>>> somewhere
>>>>
>>>> Nigel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2012 03:39, Axil Axil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in the possible association of
>>>>> zero-point-energy/**electrostatic based supersonic shockwave
>>>>> acceleration
>>>>> processes that occur as a consequence of ionic crystal formation during
>>>>> cavatation bubble collapse and the closely related plasma reaction in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Papp engine which might occur in the plasmoid formation process in
>>>>> heavy
>>>>> noble gases.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Plasmoid that is formed by the spark discharge in a noble gas mix
>>>>> might
>>>>> be analogous to what happens in the collapse of a single large
>>>>> cavatation
>>>>> bubble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Plasmoid both acts like and might be thought of as a manifestation
>>>>> of a
>>>>> single large collapsing cavitation bubble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In more detail, what Mark LeClair has observed as positive ionic
>>>>> crystallization formation in water that is catalyzed in the high
>>>>> pressure
>>>>> plasma generation during cavatation in water may also be happening in
>>>>> ionic
>>>>> positively charge  krypton and xenon crystal formation in the Papp
>>>>> reaction.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that this idea is justifiable since cavatation damage also
>>>>> occurs
>>>>> in liquid sodium and molten salt pumps at levels of up to ten times
>>>>> more
>>>>> intense as is happening in water.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Positive ionic crystallization formation can happen in many types of
>>>>> ionic
>>>>> elements and chemical compounds in both liquids and gases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a recent YouTube based interview covering cavitation with Mark
>>>>> LeClair.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=a7Gqd34R5OQ<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Gqd34R5OQ>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In this interview, Mark LeClair believes that LENR happens in
>>>>> cavatation.
>>>>> But  a deeper level of abstraction is needed in his thinking.  LENR
>>>>> actually is based on the action of positively charged ionic
>>>>> super-atomic
>>>>> crystals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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