Also remember that a BEC under magnetic field alignment has been known to collapse/explode into a "Bosenova"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosenova Stewart On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > It is an interesting question as to what percentage of the yield of > “Mike” – if any - was due to BEC formation within the large flask of liquid > deuterium. For some reason, this possibility never occurred to me before > now - but it seems possible if not likely.**** > > ** ** > > Indeed, the extra yield from BECs could have been substantial. **** > > ** ** > > BTW – the statement that Maxwellian distribution prohibits room > temperature BECs is probably false in a time denominated progression where > only a small percentage is necessary for fusion. It’s all statistics. But > the skeptics mis-framed the argument.**** > > ** ** > > If BECs can form at all at room temperature - then at least for a useable > portion of the population of deuterons, there should be transitory > condensates of a few tens of molecules forming rapidly enough at room > temperature for fusion - since the time required for fusion is extremely > short. Even if only 10 deuterons in 10 billion condense together at any > picosecond, the statistics could be such that there should always be a > useable population to fuse. **** > > ** ** > > This is above my pay grade, but I doubt seriously that MB distributions > are prohibitory - IF the BEC will form at all at ambient. The logical error > of skeptics here is the “all or nothing” error.**** > > ** ** > > Don’t forget that D nuclei inside a palladium lattice at full loading and > 300 K are closer together than when in the deuterons are in liquid form. * > *** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Roberson **** > > ** ** > > Low temperatures initially? Too bad it did not remain that way. **** > > ** ** > > Actually, I was seeking evidence of a low energy reaction. You did bring > up an interesting point however. How would you expect the BECs to > influence the overall reaction in this particular case? Could they have > caused the yield to exceed expectations? Would that also tend to generate > nasty radioactive elements that do not normally occur in other designs? We > may be on to something that needs to be explored.**** > > ** ** > > I am attempting to get a handle on the equivalent pressure that would be > required to force Ds to be in the proximity that they find themselves > within if they share a hole within a metal matrix. This must be enormous > compared to the density they exhibit at room temperature. Add this > elevated pressure and laser cooling, or other methods that reduce the > relative motion between them and something interesting might result.**** > > ** ** > > Then, of course there are random variations in the energy of Ds that > naturally occur. It makes me wonder if being trapped in a tiny cavity > would tend to allow instantaneous cooling to occur under the right > circumstances.**** > > ** ** > > Dave > > **** > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jones Beene **** > > **** > > This is why I ask whether or not fusion has been proven to occur with very > low temperature deuterons. I am not aware that anyone makes that claim and > it would add support to the other theory if proven.**** > > **** > > **** > > Yes – an early hydrogen bomb called “Mike” put millions of tons of > radioactivity into the air in the fifties, creating untold numbers of > health problems today - but that is probably not the answer you are looking > for. Although the yield was surprising – so perhaps BECs were involved, > come to think of it.**** > > **** > > BTW – “Mike” used liquid deuterium in a large thermos as the main fuel - > with a small fission trigger. No tritium was needed. The output was over 10 > megatons of TNT – and that exceeded all of the explosives used in WW II, > including the small fission bombs dropped on Japan - which were similar to > Mike’s trigger. **** > > **** > > About 95% of Mike’s energy came from the fusion of liquid deuterium at > very low temperature - initially J**** > > **** > > Cough, cough…**** >
