From: Jed Rothwell
This is not the way real companies operate . and make no mistake - they have raised millions . . . Did they really raise millions? Is there independent verification of that? Sometimes people falsely claim they have raised millions. Around here, the SF Bay area and Silicon V, there were three groups or companies with ties to Papp. AFAIK none of them were associated with the Rohners, except Sabori for a while and he is not relevant any more. I have it on good authority that these three together have raised over ten million over the years and possibly more. All of it is probably gone now. This is apparently how Mckubre got into the Papp engine story - as he is located near all of them. Some of the company names are on PESN page: http://peswiki.com/energy/PowerPedia:Joseph_Papp%27s_Noble_Gas_Engine This makes five companies altogether pursuing Papp. One which is in San Jose, and operating "under the radar" is said to be ahead of everyone else, and the Rohners are considered to be not particularly relevant, as is Sabori. It would not surprise me to hear that $ 20 million total has gone down the tubes in pursuit of Papp across the USA over the years, maybe more. And the sad thing is that none of them - NONE - seem to care very much that the main feature of the Papp engine, the one that made it successful, and the one feature that they do not have and probably never will have, is radium. Jones
