Axil
I didn't know that was the focus of Peter Hagelstein's work. However, he
says he adds a "weird kind of loss" to his model. Any idea what he means?

BTW, It occured to me that a "failed" model, i.e. a classically unstable
model, could also produce a similar result, where a given amount of
energy is emitted continuously  over a certain range of frequencies instead
of being emitted all at once as a gamma photon at one frequency.
Harry
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> MIT Prof. Peter L. Hagelstein stated in an interview as follows:
>
> So after a lot of years of work on it, about 10 years ago we found a model
> that actually did something like that. It's remarkable! It turns out in the
> physics literature, there's a model called the 'Spin-Boson Model' that's
> basically a fundamental quantum mechanics model, so you have a harmonic
> oscillator and you hook it up to what's called a two level system — that's
> just an idealisation, it's a little bit of physics having to do with two of
> the energy levels in a more complicated system. But it makes the math
> really simple, so the resulting model is one you can analyze to death.
> People have studied that model now for between 40-60 years, depending on
> how you count them. This model predicts the 30 or 50 fold, or the ability
> to break up a two level system quantum into, for example, into nearly 30
> individual quanta.
>
> Axil says:
> Let us now address another quantum optics model describing polaritons:
>
> The Jaynes–Cummings model.
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaynes%E2%80%93Cummings_model
>
> Starting at the very bottom, the most basic underlying model that teaches
> us how waves/particles can resonate is the Jaynes–Cummings model (JCM). It
> describes the system of a two-level atom interacting with a quantized mode
> of an optical cavity, with or without the presence of light (in the form of
> a bath of electromagnetic radiation that can cause spontaneous emission and
> absorption).
>
> MIT Prof. Peter L. Hagelstein continues in the interview as follows:
>
> What we found is the way that the model does it, it can do it, but it's
> hindered. There's a destructive interference effect that goes on, that
> makes the effect relatively weak. What we found, is that if you added a
> weird kind of loss to the model— a loss that you would expect in the cold
> fusion scenario. The new model, with loss, is much more relevant to the
> physical situation called fusion than otherwise. But this weird kind of
> loss, it breaks the destructive interference, and it makes this energy
> exchange go orders of magnitude faster. And instead of being a relatively
> weak effect, it's now a very strong, it's a dominant effect. This model is
> exactly what you need! It's a microscopic engine to take big quanta and
> chop it up into little tiny quanta. So that's what we've found.
>
> Axil says:
>
> This is Fano interference active in an optical cavity to localize EMF
> radiation to the near field by eliminated far field emissions.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *
>>
>> MIT Prof. Peter L. Hagelstein stated in an interview as follows:
>> *
>>
>> So there are no significant amount of neutrons, there's no fast
>> electrons, there's no gamma rays. There's nothing you might expect if it
>> were a more normal nuclear reaction process. The basic statement here is
>> that — if it's real and if it's nuclear... the argument for it being
>> nuclear is that there's 4He (helium-4) observed in experiments, roughly one
>> 4He for every 24 MeV of energy that's created. So what you need in the way
>> of a theoretical model, basically a new kind of mechanism that doesn't work
>> like the old Rutherford reaction picture that nuclear physics is based on.
>> So that's the basic problem that I've been working on for a great many
>> years.
>>
>> The big problem is one that has to do with the quantum mechanics issue.
>> The nuclear energy comes in a big energy quantum, and if it didn't get
>> broken up, then the big energy quantum would get expressed as energetic
>> particles, as normally happens in nuclear reactions. So the approach we've
>> taken is that we've said "the only conceivable route for making sense of
>> these observations at all, is that the big energy quanta have to get sliced
>> and diced up into a very very large number if much smaller energy quanta."
>> The much larger number is on the order of several hundred million. In NMR
>> physics and optical physics, people are familiar with breaking up a large
>> quantum into perhaps 30 smaller pieces, you could argue that there are some
>> experiments where you could argue that maybe that numbers as high as 100 or
>> so. It's unprecedented that you could take an MeV quantum and chop it up
>> into bite sized pieces that are 10s of meV.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If a bunch of low energy photons  is equivalent to the energy of 1 high
>>> energy gamma photon, why can't a particular nuclear reaction sometimes
>>> produce a mountain of infrared photons instead one gamma photon? According
>>> to conservation of energy this is possible, so why is it considered
>>> impossible?
>>>
>>> harry
>>>
>>>
>>

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