Jones, Axil,
Like many here yours, Robin's, Ed's and Jed's are all "must
reads" for insight and out of the box ideas.. please don't suspect any malice
on the part of either of yourselves... yours is an exchange of ideas that
benefit all.. please don't take offense or change your recipies for posting ..
the tone is very productive right where you have it.
Best Regards
Fran
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Serendipity, Hexavalency and E-Cat
Axil says:
What is the difference between "connect the dots" and "conflate". I believe it
is spin...What gives you the license to "connect the dots" and then allows you
to accuse me of conflating a relationship between two experimental results.
No one on this forum needs a license to try to promote cutting-edge scientific
discovery, nor to find hidden relationships if they are historical, nor to
challenge any conclusion that others make. But please do so with facts or
logic, not vague generalities. And do not expect you own contentions to go
unchallenged when they are so not supported by the references cited, as with
gamma thermalization. In fact I welcome your challenges and that is one of the
reasons I post here. If you are too thin-skinned to welcome challenges from
others, my suggestion is to go elsewhere.
Correspondingly, I do not "accuse" you of anything other than occasionally not
understanding the papers you cite. Several times recently you have cited papers
that completely negate the point you were trying to make. Deliberately
conflating relationships which do not exist should always be challenged, but
instead of defending, or retracting, a silly error (confusing a bosonic
Josephson junction with a quasi-particle room temperature BEC) you seem to want
to respond with some kind of appeal to unfairness.
I only connected two dots whereas you conflated six items some
rejected by science as invalid.
No, you did not connect any dots at all. You confused a bosonic Josephson
junction with a room temperature BEC (of quasiparticles) when in fact LENR
involves temperature way above room temperature and quasiparticles cannot form
Josephson junctions at all. You did this in order to promote an outlandishly
incorrect hypothesis that the BJJ is involved in "thermalization of gammas"
which is something that never happens to begin with.
I want to see a specific experiment that explicitly shows such a direct
relationship between these six items before you are allowed to "connect the
dots".
What six items are you talking about? I am happy to address your concerns, but
note: if there was an obvious relationship in Rossi's previous work with
Petroldragon to the E-Cat, then someone would likely have seen it before now -
going on several years. At any rate, this was a suggestion and not a claim.
IOW, I'm suggesting a possible historical connection, with the explicit proviso
of "if there was a thermal anomaly with Petroldragon" - which is a bit
different from promoting an absurdity - misquoting references, and then
whimpering that you are being treated unfairly.
Jones
