Remember that Rossi also saw some extreme electromagnetic behavior in his core. Does that count as some validation of what DGT is claiming?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > You are right, the energy associated with a 1.6 Tesla magnetic field of > the spatial extent suggested by DGT would be awesome. It would be a good > exercise for someone in the vortex to calculate the energy contained within > a field of their hypothesized level and extent. If they speak the facts, > it appears as though much of the energy released by their device might go > toward supplying the magnetic field. That would be a great way to get > around the issue of high energy radiation! :) > > I remain skeptical about the field levels suggested and need much > additional evidence to eventually accept the levels stated. Could DGT have > used the term Tesla when Gauss was the actual level measured? It might be > that simple. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:27 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:NiH NAE Synopsis? > > The Nanoplasmoic electrochemists have be trying to understand hot spots > for decades and are looking for something these hot stops are good for. For > example, they are trying to build a polariton laser or quantum computer > with them. > > When their Nanoplasmoic probe chemicals they use to measure the power of > the hot spot burn up, they just give up on those powerful nanoantenna > configurations. This places a limit on the power of the solitons that they > can study. We understand that the solitons can grow very powerful almost > without limit. The 1.6 tesla power level revealed by DGT is an indication > of this extreme power level. > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree that a resonant condition occurs at the size and temperatures >> that you point out, but it is less clear that any exact dimension will be >> important to the operation of the reactors. Spheres in open space will >> exhibit a resonance that is mathematically well defined and no doubt can be >> adjusted to 137 C in the ideal case. But, when you pack these together is >> close proximity, it is doubtful that the same frequency of resonance >> occurs. Electric or magnetic coupling between the nearby particles must >> interact to some great degree. And, metallic connections at random >> locations has to reap havoc with the resonances. For these reasons, I have >> a difficult time believing that this effect is important in these devices. >> >> The Curie temperature, on the other hand, appears to be fairly well >> established. This sets up a particular temperature point where magnetic >> behavior changes rapidly. And, if what DGT says is correct about the >> enormous magnetic fields (?) they have seen, then something magnetic in >> nature must be important. I can not emphasize enough how important the >> large field will be toward understanding the system behavior if it in fact >> exists. This possibility must wait until further proof is obtained since >> it seems beyond belief. >> >> DGT owes us some evidence which I hope is coming soon. >> >> Speaking of DGT, has anyone seen a schedule that defines when DGT will >> release the data stored during the latest public demonstration? I have >> some important questions that it might help answer. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 6:46 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:NiH NAE Synopsis? >> >> *I*n physics, Planck's law describes the amount of energy emitted by a >> black body in radiation of a certain wavelength (i.e. the spectral radiance >> of a black body). The law is named after Max Planck, who originally >> proposed it in 1900. The law was the first to accurately describe black >> body radiation, and resolved the ultraviolet catastrophe. It is a pioneer >> result of modern physics and quantum theory. >> >> For a given black body temperature, the wavelength at the peak of the >> Planck curve is called maximum lambda. >> >> This value gives a fell for the minimum relative size that an radiating >> object must be to optimally support photons associated with a give >> temperature. >> >> Like and antenna, a particle of nickel will best support the photons at >> a given temperature if the particle size is the adjusted to the ideal size. >> >> For a temperature of 700k or about 400C, the Lambda(max) must be 4.14 >> microns. >> >> This is why Rossi uses very large micro sized nickel particles in his >> reactor. Nano sized particles will not properly support the ideal photon >> wavelength needed to force protons into quantum mechanical coherence. >> >> Rossi undoubtedly found this optimal size through trial and error but >> science is easier. >> >> For a Planck function Infrared Radiance Calculator see the following: >> >> >> https://www.sensiac.org/external/resources/calculators/infrared_radiance_calculator.jsf%3bjsessionid=D08873244D6904EE654DBCDF0391F95E >> >> 137C = *410.15* Kelvins. >> >> >> Putting this number into the temperature field of the calculator, we >> get a resonance particle size of 7.07 um. >> >> >> If the raw particle size is 5 um, if we add a nanowire cover with wires >> about 1 micron in length, then we are at the blackbody resonance particle >> size. >> >> >> This is the maximum size of all the nickel micro powder. >> >> >> As the temperature of the nickel powder increases, the smaller >> particles will reach blackbody resonance. >> >> >> To start the Ni/H reactor up, we need some very big micro powder to get >> it going. >> >> PS: I will bet you that a Ni/H reactor that contains only Nano powder >> will not work well. >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Don't the particle sizes and shapes vary all over the map in a normal >>> mass of the material? This would defeat any process that depends upon the >>> size being exact. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> >>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:55 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:NiH NAE Synopsis? >>> >>> This resonance must be related to maximum size of the nickel >>> micro-particles as related to blackbody resonance. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> 137C must be an experimentally well measured parameter. It must also >>>> correspond to a sharp resonance condition. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Axil, >>>>> >>>>> I suspect that you are reading too much into the temperature >>>>> measurement. The motion of the individual atoms varies over quite a range >>>>> at a given temperature. For this reason, I am inclined to believe that >>>>> Curie temperature might be important if magnetic effects are a key, but >>>>> any >>>>> special resonance at 137C seems to be a long stretch. >>>>> >>>>> It is not entirely evident that the Debye temperature matters in >>>>> this situation. >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> >>>>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 1:49 pm >>>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:NiH NAE Synopsis? >>>>> >>>>> *The magnetic nature of nickel would interfere with the production >>>>> of nano-vortex anapole fields.* >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> *The ability of nickel to affect nano-magnetism must be removed by >>>>> getting nickel above the Curie temperature.* >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> *Dipole oscillations are the powerhouse that feeds energy into >>>>> vortex current production. The stronger the Dipole oscillations become, >>>>> the >>>>> stronger that the vortex currents will become.* >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> *Through the application of heat, the nickel micro particles power >>>>> the LENR process through stimulating Dipole oscillations. This heat >>>>> energy is transferred to the dipoles most efficiently at or above the >>>>> Debye >>>>> temperature.* >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> *Also, 137C is the blackbody resonant frequency for micro-particles >>>>> at about 6 microns. * >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> *I bet when Defkalion and Rossi add the nanowire covering to the 5 >>>>> micron nickel micro-powder, the size of those processed particles will be >>>>> ideal for a 137C blackbody resonance.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:28 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does that favor the Debye temperature or Curie point view of the NAE? >>>>>> >>>>>> Given your prior posting of this video: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFc4wriBvE >>>>>> >>>>>> It would seem to point to the Debye temperature. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *At the heart of the Nanoplasmonic theory of LENR, hot spots >>>>>>> produce nano-sized magnetic vortexes that disrupt nuclear structure. >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To put things into perspective, the Curie point and not the >>>>>>>>> Debye temperature of nickel seems to be the most important parameter >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> gain in Ni-H. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, so now we have: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nickel nanomagnetic scale (sub 10nm) particles heated at least to >>>>>>>> Ni's Debye temperature, if not its Curie point, and infused with >>>>>>>> hydrogen >>>>>>>> -- the mixture being triggered to a NAE by ionizing the hydrogen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Areas of clarification needed: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Should "hydrogen" read "protium (ie: Hydrogen-1)"? >>>>>>>> - Should there be some characteristic of the ionizing energy >>>>>>>> specified so that the "infused" "hydrogen" is properly ionized? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:20 AM, James Bowery >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:38 PM, James Bowery <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Erratum: Debay -> Debye >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:38 PM, James Bowery < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nickel nanoparticles heated to Ni's Debay temperature and >>>>>>>>>>> infused with hydrogen -- the mixture being triggered to a NAE by >>>>>>>>>>> ionizing >>>>>>>>>>> the hydrogen. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Areas of clarification needed:... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Is there a technical name that can be given to the >>>>>>>>>>> geometry of the "nanoparticles" that would, for example, tell us >>>>>>>>>>> where in >>>>>>>>>>> the "nano" range the size of these particles should sit? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Nanomagnetic scale" (sub 10nm) is a term that may qualify. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> See pages 14-16 of: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://ecatsite.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/energy-localization-no8-11_n3.pdf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
