<[email protected]> wrote:

. . . Wouldn't you think it a little bit suspicious that those in charge of
> the invention never closed the energetic loop by simply feeding some
> proportion of the output back to the input!?
>
> . . .
>
> And yet that is exactly what Rossi / Defkalion / Vortex / etc have been
> doing for the last few years.  What is wrong with everybody!?
>

You are mistaken. Rossi ran his device in public for ~4 hours without
input, far beyond the limits of chemistry. He has run in that mode many
times in private tests, according to people I know who witnessed these
tests.

This is known as "heat after death" (HAD) in cold fusion jargon. That is an
inaccurate way to describe it, but anyway, if you look up that term you
will see that many other researchers have run without input power. Arata
supposedly ran that way for weeks. His calorimetry is not good but I think
he probably did as claimed.

I do not know whether Defkalion has done this. I am sure that Rossi did. I
am also sure it really was in HAD mode because the power was definitely
off, the cooling water flow was on, so the reactor should have been at room
temperature after 4 hours. Yet the video showed it was hot enough to burn a
woman who accidentally brushed against it. Also, several people reported
the reactor it was full of boiling hot water when they opened it.

Rossi has good reasons to avoid HAD mode in normal tests. In the first
Elforsk visit, his steel reactor vessel melted. The reaction is not under
control.

- Jed

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