If I understand what you are saying, I should be able to place a large magnet in front of one of these polaritons and it would be attracted to it. Is that correct?
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 10:40 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev The spin of the polariton produces the magnetic field in the same way that an iron magnet produces a magnetic field; that is, through spin alignment except that the half soliton has only one pole. Think of the soliton as a very strong permanent magnet. Charge movement does not produce a current. There is no AC frequency and no RF involved. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: You are describing a strange particle Axil. It is not clear as to whether or not the magnetic field generated within the soliton is steady or of an AC nature. Can you verify that a DC magnetic field is generated by this type of ensemble? Why does the AC frequency of the trapped photon not effect the field? I am not aware of any RF type of system that can generate a DC field unless it is rectified by some means. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:59 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev A polariton is a photon and an electron locked together in a pair. This pair orbits around a cavity on its edge. The spin of all polaritons are pointed such that the polariton ensemble produces a magnetic field at the center of the soliton perpendicular to the circular polariton current (whirlpool). This current is superconducting. When photons and electrons enter into the soliton, they don’t exit. By the way, polariton solitons are used as a research tool to understand the behavior of astrophysical black holes. I believe that the magnetic field projections from the soliton screen the charge of all fermions in the nucleus including the nucleus and all protons in the neighborhood. When the nucleus and many di-protons pairs around it reorganizes, gamma energy travels back on the magnetic field lines from the soliton and the photons gain energy generating increase magnetic field strengths going forward. The magnetic fields produced by such solitons can get huge. LeClair saw a soliton he produced eat through 6 feet of copper as it rode on the surface of a copper rod. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:23 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: Perhaps I heard you this time! Would you expect the increased magnetic field created by these polaritons to then be able to cause more LENR activity in synchronization? I suppose I need to have a better understanding of the half soliton of polaritons that you mention. Where can I locate a straight forward description of them? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:14 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev David, A half soliton of polaritons can not only produce a magnetic field, it can thermalize gamma radiation to EUV and convert that radiation to more magnetic strength in a positive feed back loop. I will continue to repeat this until it gets through, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:00 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: Bob, I was not thinking about Muon type cold fusion. I guess it skipped my thoughts since I have been concentrating on nickel hydrogen systems. It is interesting to see that you have been seeking some form of interaction between the reactant atoms and a magnetic field since it makes a great deal of sense that some direct interaction takes place between the charged particles and the magnetic field that permeates the area around them. If that field is intense enough, one might expect it to restrain the motion of those charged particles by effectively offering them a medium to 'push' against. A slow moving magnetic field of the sort that I understand DGT suggests would be able to reach into every region of the active material, including the nuclei. The relatively slow moving nature of the externally detected remnant would be expected since the internally generated field passes through an excellent metallic conductor. I also suspect that any locally generated rapidly changing magnetic field variations would be absorbed by nearby electrons in the lattice due to an induced 'E field' at their location. How far into the metal lattice the rapid magnetic field variations penetrate is of interest. It seems logical to assume that essentially all of the electrons that intercept that field would get a kick from a nearby fusion reaction. This process reminds me of how I visualize a magnetic brake in operation. A few questions remain that I want answered. Is the large external magnetic field reported by DGT real? Have they retracted that announcement or do they continue to insist that it is reported accurately? If the field exists, my suspicion is that there is some interaction between the powerful magnetic field and the individual NAE. How this gets translated into a positive feedback effect escapes me at this time. I anticipate a positive feedback system is generating this behavior because of the nature of the field. There does not seem to be any known reason for such a large field to be generated by the DGT device, and of course, it begins as a small field. There likewise is no good explanation for the LENR action either, so it seems like a logical conclusion to assume they are connected in some manner. For example, a small local NAE allows a fusion which results in the release of a significant local magnetic field that interacts with its neighbors. This field induces some of them to join in leading to additional LENR activity. The new fusions are somehow able to add to the initial guiding field in a positive manner. Both increase together to result in a significant amount of LENR activity and a large total magnetic field. You do not observe one without the other being present. Also, unless the parameters are correct allowing the coupling to be sufficient, you do not observe a significant amount of LENR performance or a significant external magnetic field. The requirement for the correct positive feedback environment could easily explain the difficulty in producing a working system. The above scenario represents my latest thinking. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:14 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev Dave-- Muon induced cold fusion was known before the P-F effect was demonstrated. I always assumed the magnetic field in the P-F effect was somehow involved with the event. Pd has a large magnetic susceptibility and a large electronic heat capacity associated with effectively heavy S band electrons. The large B field inside the Pd metal would reduce the number of possible quantum states for the deuterium particles and cause them to be aligned, spin-wise, parallel or anti parallel to the local (internal) B field. I have an idea about the synthesis of He from the deuterium that involves the spin, angular momentum and transfer of residual energy via spin coupling to the electronic structure of the lattice, assuming a continuous "quantum connected" system. I have always thought that the He formed in the process starts out as an excited He* with a high spin quantum state and associated energy which is rapidly (instantaneously) released to the lattice electrons (conserving angular momentum) and hence vibrational phonons--heat. Linear momentum and kinetic energy is not involved in the process. Also, apparently similar (perceived the same) physical phenomena have differing causes--the issue is in what's apparent and what really is the cause. I tend to agree with Axil. His comment that if you look deep enough (the picture will make sense) is the basis for scientific investigation. Bob Cook (Stalecookie) (My first response to this blog.) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev I agree with your approach Ed. I just wanted to point out that we must not put on blinders if we make measurements that suggest that some other reaction is taking place than the suspected one. It is prudent to begin with the most likely concepts to explore and to keep our eyes wide open for results that do not quite match our expectations. It would not come as a big surprise if eventually a few different processes are identified. Time and experimentation will settle the issue and it is premature to declare victory. For example, if you go back to the time before P&F there was no possible way for cold fusion to occur according to what was known and the doors need to remain open to new discoveries that might come from unexpected locals. If the magnetic field reported by DGT turns out to be real, then a whole new series of paths become possible. I have been considering the application of positive feedback involving the interaction of a locally powerful magnetic field and some form of nuclear fusion process that couple into each other. A large scale version of this phenomena would not have been possible to observe before Rossi or DGT had systems with adequate power. The way nickel looses it gross magnetic characteristic once the temperature reaches a threshold might allow the underlying process to initiate. Dave
