David, A half soliton of polaritons can not only produce a magnetic field, it can thermalize gamma radiation to EUV and convert that radiation to more magnetic strength in a positive feed back loop.
I will continue to repeat this until it gets through, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:00 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > Bob, I was not thinking about Muon type cold fusion. I guess it skipped > my thoughts since I have been concentrating on nickel hydrogen systems. It > is interesting to see that you have been seeking some form of interaction > between the reactant atoms and a magnetic field since it makes a great deal > of sense that some direct interaction takes place between the charged > particles and the magnetic field that permeates the area around them. If > that field is intense enough, one might expect it to restrain the motion of > those charged particles by effectively offering them a medium to 'push' > against. > > A slow moving magnetic field of the sort that I understand DGT suggests > would be able to reach into every region of the active material, including > the nuclei. The relatively slow moving nature of the externally detected > remnant would be expected since the internally generated field passes > through an excellent metallic conductor. I also suspect that any locally > generated rapidly changing magnetic field variations would be absorbed by > nearby electrons in the lattice due to an induced 'E field' at their > location. > > How far into the metal lattice the rapid magnetic field variations > penetrate is of interest. It seems logical to assume that essentially all > of the electrons that intercept that field would get a kick from a nearby > fusion reaction. This process reminds me of how I visualize a magnetic > brake in operation. > > A few questions remain that I want answered. Is the large external > magnetic field reported by DGT real? Have they retracted that announcement > or do they continue to insist that it is reported accurately? > > If the field exists, my suspicion is that there is some interaction > between the powerful magnetic field and the individual NAE. How this gets > translated into a positive feedback effect escapes me at this time. I > anticipate a positive feedback system is generating this behavior because > of the nature of the field. There does not seem to be any known reason for > such a large field to be generated by the DGT device, and of course, it > begins as a small field. There likewise is no good explanation for the > LENR action either, so it seems like a logical conclusion to assume they > are connected in some manner. For example, a small local NAE allows a > fusion which results in the release of a significant local magnetic field > that interacts with its neighbors. This field induces some of them to join > in leading to additional LENR activity. The new fusions are somehow able > to add to the initial guiding field in a positive manner. Both increase > together to result in a significant amount of LENR activity and a large > total magnetic field. You do not observe one without the other being > present. Also, unless the parameters are correct allowing the coupling to > be sufficient, you do not observe a significant amount of LENR performance > or a significant external magnetic field. The requirement for the correct > positive feedback environment could easily explain the difficulty in > producing a working system. > > The above scenario represents my latest thinking. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:14 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev > > Dave-- > > Muon induced cold fusion was known before the P-F effect was > demonstrated. > > I always assumed the magnetic field in the P-F effect was somehow involved > with the event. Pd has a large magnetic susceptibility and a large > electronic heat capacity associated with effectively heavy S band > electrons. The large B field inside the Pd metal would reduce the number > of possible quantum states for the deuterium particles and cause them to be > aligned, spin-wise, parallel or anti parallel to the local (internal) B > field. > > I have an idea about the synthesis of He from the deuterium that > involves the spin, angular momentum and transfer of residual energy via > spin coupling to the electronic structure of the lattice, assuming a > continuous "quantum connected" system. I have always thought that the He > formed in the process starts out as an excited He* with a high spin quantum > state and associated energy which is rapidly (instantaneously) released to > the lattice electrons (conserving angular momentum) and hence vibrational > phonons--heat. Linear momentum and kinetic energy is not involved in the > process. > > Also, apparently similar (perceived the same) physical phenomena have > differing causes--the issue is in what's apparent and what really is the > cause. I tend to agree with Axil. His comment that if you look deep > enough (the picture will make sense) is the basis for scientific > investigation. > > > Bob Cook (Stalecookie) (My first response to this blog.) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 2:23 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev > > I agree with your approach Ed. I just wanted to point out that we must > not put on blinders if we make measurements that suggest that some other > reaction is taking place than the suspected one. It is prudent to begin > with the most likely concepts to explore and to keep our eyes wide open for > results that do not quite match our expectations. > > It would not come as a big surprise if eventually a few different > processes are identified. Time and experimentation will settle the issue > and it is premature to declare victory. > > For example, if you go back to the time before P&F there was no possible > way for cold fusion to occur according to what was known and the doors need > to remain open to new discoveries that might come from unexpected locals. > If the magnetic field reported by DGT turns out to be real, then a whole > new series of paths become possible. I have been considering the > application of positive feedback involving the interaction of a locally > powerful magnetic field and some form of nuclear fusion process that couple > into each other. A large scale version of this phenomena would not have > been possible to observe before Rossi or DGT had systems with adequate > power. The way nickel looses it gross magnetic characteristic once the > temperature reaches a threshold might allow the underlying process to > initiate. > > Dave > > >
