yes, A magnetic field will affect the direction of the spin of the both the polariton and the soliton. but that might not affect the LENR reaction because there is matter all around the soliton, the mega-spin of the soliton will just zap some other atoms in the area.
One more point, all the solitons are formed into a superconducting BEC and what the magnetic field will do to the BEC I have not thought about. The external magnetic field might destroy the BEC. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:46 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > If I understand what you are saying, I should be able to place a large > magnet in front of one of these polaritons and it would be attracted to > it. Is that correct? > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 10:40 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev > > The spin of the polariton produces the magnetic field in the same way > that an iron magnet produces a magnetic field; that is, through spin > alignment except that the half soliton has only one pole. > Think of the soliton as a very strong permanent magnet. > Charge movement does not produce a current. There is no AC frequency and > no RF involved. > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: > >> You are describing a strange particle Axil. It is not clear as to >> whether or not the magnetic field generated within the soliton is steady or >> of an AC nature. Can you verify that a DC magnetic field is generated by >> this type of ensemble? Why does the AC frequency of the trapped photon >> not effect the field? I am not aware of any RF type of system that can >> generate a DC field unless it is rectified by some means. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:59 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev >> >> A polariton is a photon and an electron locked together in a pair. This >> pair orbits around a cavity on its edge. The spin of all polaritons are >> pointed such that the polariton ensemble produces a magnetic field at the >> center of the soliton perpendicular to the circular polariton current >> (whirlpool). This current is superconducting. When photons and electrons >> enter into the soliton, they don't exit. By the way, polariton solitons are >> used as a research tool to understand the behavior of astrophysical black >> holes. >> I believe that the magnetic field projections from the soliton screen the >> charge of all fermions in the nucleus including the nucleus and all protons >> in the neighborhood. When the nucleus and many di-protons pairs around it >> reorganizes, gamma energy travels back on the magnetic field lines from the >> soliton and the photons gain energy generating increase magnetic field >> strengths going forward. The magnetic fields produced by such solitons can >> get huge. >> LeClair saw a soliton he produced eat through 6 feet of copper as it rode >> on the surface of a copper rod. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:23 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: >> >>> Perhaps I heard you this time! Would you expect the increased magnetic >>> field created by these polaritons to then be able to cause more LENR >>> activity in synchronization? >>> >>> I suppose I need to have a better understanding of the half soliton of >>> polaritons that you mention. Where can I locate a straight forward >>> description of them? >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:14 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev >>> >>> David, >>> >>> A half soliton of polaritons can not only produce a magnetic field, it >>> can thermalize gamma radiation to EUV and convert that radiation to more >>> magnetic strength in a positive feed back loop. >>> >>> I will continue to repeat this until it gets through, >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:00 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Bob, I was not thinking about Muon type cold fusion. I guess it >>>> skipped my thoughts since I have been concentrating on nickel hydrogen >>>> systems. It is interesting to see that you have been seeking some form of >>>> interaction between the reactant atoms and a magnetic field since it makes >>>> a great deal of sense that some direct interaction takes place between the >>>> charged particles and the magnetic field that permeates the area around >>>> them. If that field is intense enough, one might expect it to restrain the >>>> motion of those charged particles by effectively offering them a medium to >>>> 'push' against. >>>> >>>> A slow moving magnetic field of the sort that I understand DGT suggests >>>> would be able to reach into every region of the active material, including >>>> the nuclei. The relatively slow moving nature of the externally detected >>>> remnant would be expected since the internally generated field passes >>>> through an excellent metallic conductor. I also suspect that any locally >>>> generated rapidly changing magnetic field variations would be absorbed by >>>> nearby electrons in the lattice due to an induced 'E field' at their >>>> location. >>>> >>>> How far into the metal lattice the rapid magnetic field variations >>>> penetrate is of interest. It seems logical to assume that essentially all >>>> of the electrons that intercept that field would get a kick from a nearby >>>> fusion reaction. This process reminds me of how I visualize a magnetic >>>> brake in operation. >>>> >>>> A few questions remain that I want answered. Is the large external >>>> magnetic field reported by DGT real? Have they retracted that announcement >>>> or do they continue to insist that it is reported accurately? >>>> >>>> If the field exists, my suspicion is that there is some interaction >>>> between the powerful magnetic field and the individual NAE. How this gets >>>> translated into a positive feedback effect escapes me at this time. I >>>> anticipate a positive feedback system is generating this behavior because >>>> of the nature of the field. There does not seem to be any known reason for >>>> such a large field to be generated by the DGT device, and of course, it >>>> begins as a small field. There likewise is no good explanation for the >>>> LENR action either, so it seems like a logical conclusion to assume they >>>> are connected in some manner. For example, a small local NAE allows a >>>> fusion which results in the release of a significant local magnetic field >>>> that interacts with its neighbors. This field induces some of them to join >>>> in leading to additional LENR activity. The new fusions are somehow able >>>> to add to the initial guiding field in a positive manner. Both increase >>>> together to result in a significant amount of LENR activity and a large >>>> total magnetic field. You do not observe one without the other being >>>> present. Also, unless the parameters are correct allowing the coupling to >>>> be sufficient, you do not observe a significant amount of LENR performance >>>> or a significant external magnetic field. The requirement for the correct >>>> positive feedback environment could easily explain the difficulty in >>>> producing a working system. >>>> >>>> The above scenario represents my latest thinking. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> >>>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>>> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:14 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev >>>> >>>> Dave-- >>>> >>>> Muon induced cold fusion was known before the P-F effect was >>>> demonstrated. >>>> >>>> I always assumed the magnetic field in the P-F effect was somehow >>>> involved with the event. Pd has a large magnetic susceptibility and a >>>> large electronic heat capacity associated with effectively heavy S band >>>> electrons. The large B field inside the Pd metal would reduce the number >>>> of possible quantum states for the deuterium particles and cause them to be >>>> aligned, spin-wise, parallel or anti parallel to the local (internal) B >>>> field. >>>> >>>> I have an idea about the synthesis of He from the deuterium that >>>> involves the spin, angular momentum and transfer of residual energy via >>>> spin coupling to the electronic structure of the lattice, assuming a >>>> continuous "quantum connected" system. I have always thought that the He >>>> formed in the process starts out as an excited He* with a high spin quantum >>>> state and associated energy which is rapidly (instantaneously) released to >>>> the lattice electrons (conserving angular momentum) and hence vibrational >>>> phonons--heat. Linear momentum and kinetic energy is not involved in the >>>> process. >>>> >>>> Also, apparently similar (perceived the same) physical phenomena have >>>> differing causes--the issue is in what's apparent and what really is the >>>> cause. I tend to agree with Axil. His comment that if you look deep >>>> enough (the picture will make sense) is the basis for scientific >>>> investigation. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bob Cook (Stalecookie) (My first response to this blog.) >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> >>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 2:23 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev >>>> >>>> I agree with your approach Ed. I just wanted to point out that we >>>> must not put on blinders if we make measurements that suggest that some >>>> other reaction is taking place than the suspected one. It is prudent to >>>> begin with the most likely concepts to explore and to keep our eyes wide >>>> open for results that do not quite match our expectations. >>>> >>>> It would not come as a big surprise if eventually a few different >>>> processes are identified. Time and experimentation will settle the issue >>>> and it is premature to declare victory. >>>> >>>> For example, if you go back to the time before P&F there was no >>>> possible way for cold fusion to occur according to what was known and the >>>> doors need to remain open to new discoveries that might come from >>>> unexpected locals. If the magnetic field reported by DGT turns out to be >>>> real, then a whole new series of paths become possible. I have been >>>> considering the application of positive feedback involving the interaction >>>> of a locally powerful magnetic field and some form of nuclear fusion >>>> process that couple into each other. A large scale version of this >>>> phenomena would not have been possible to observe before Rossi or DGT had >>>> systems with adequate power. The way nickel looses it gross magnetic >>>> characteristic once the temperature reaches a threshold might allow the >>>> underlying process to initiate. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
