David,

I tend to think the core of the Earth as "dark matter", possibly a 6-D
space vacuum toroid and dark energy to be all the vacuum energy the
sun/other branes are spewing into space 24/7, which is accelerating as it
leaves the solar brane(our solar wind accelerates) and some/much of it
whizzes by earth(like when a CME misses Earth) and inflates/decays out in
the cosmos and turns into things like comets and asteroids as the vacuum
stuff decays back to baryonic matter. Sort of a inflating/decaying quantum
braneworld scenario. with lots of high energy curled up stuff whizzing
around making life short but interesting...




On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:50 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here is another interesting question to ponder.  If dark matter interacts
> with other dark matter, is that the source of dark energy?  This thought is
> along the lines of: Conservation of Dark Matter and Energy.  E=M*c*c where
> the M is dark matter and E is dark energy.
>
> If, as we appear to be considering, dark matter interacts very slowly
> among itself and at least one of the results is CMB, could another effect
> be the force that is driving the stars apart?   As Jones seems to be
> suggesting it would be quite useful if a method can be found to enhance
> that conversion rate to power our world.  It seems logical to believe that
> there exists an enormous amount of energy that we so far have not tapped
> which is currently expanding the universe.
>
> Has anyone seen a calculation of the total amount of energy contained in
> the CMB?  Since it propagates throughout the universe and is present to a
> degree at every location, there must be a lot of it around.  It would
> appear that this trapped energy would love to find freedom of movement by
> expanding the region that it occupies.  This process should result in an
> expansive force.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 28, 2014 4:25 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the CMB leakage from Dirac's Sea?
>
>  1)    Dark matter is inherent in the quantum vacuum, meaning it is an
> illusion in 3-space except for gravitational effects
>  In addition to gravitational effects I think it is electromagnetic
> (think magnetosphere) and weakly ionizing/decaying 3-space (think
> ionosphere) and electromagnetic/lightning discharge during storms and
> decaying and condensing surroundings creating protons and creating WATER
> (think troposphere and low pressure weather disturbances).O2 + quantum
> vacuum ionization energy --->2O-- + 4H+ = 2H2O.  If you ionize oxygen you
> get nitrogen, which between the two make up most of the atmosphere.
> 2)    The quantum vacuum = Dirac sea = dark matter
> Agreed
> 3)    CMB is not a relic of a Big Bang but is residual radiation from the
> Dirac sea
> Agreed.  I think the residual radiation changes because the Dirac Sea
> varies in vacuum concentration - it is stringy and brany.  I think the Sun
> is vomiting this stuff at us and "leaking branes", i.e. the Earth is
> "pulling a vacuum" on the Sun.
> Our oceans/water are really a result of our decayed/condensed quantum
> gravity field.
> I am still thinking the electromagnetic pulsed field from a magnetron or
> klystron is possibly causing the Dirac sea to "leak" protons or
> something...Maybe nature pulls positive charge from the vacuum to offset
> the electromagnetic field from a Doppler to keep a balance?
>  I think it relates to the Doppler Shift. Dopplers signals get warped and
> bent and are subject to anomolous clear air reflections all of the time.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Taking all of this together, there seems to exist a prima facie case
>> for this premise:
>>
>> 1)    Dark matter is inherent in the quantum vacuum, meaning it is an
>> illusion in 3-space except for gravitational effects
>> 2)    The quantum vacuum = Dirac sea = dark matter
>> 3)    CMB is not a relic of a Big Bang but is residual radiation from
>> the Dirac sea
>>
>> Now comes the interesting part. Can this information, if valid, be put to
>> use in alternative energy?
>>
>> One seemingly obvious way to proceed is to consider CMB as a “leak” of
>> some kind. If it is a leak, then we want to increase the flow rate.
>>
>> There are many ways to increase the flow rate of various streams, some of
>> which are applicable to microwave photons … so let the games begin…
>>
>> *From:* ChemE Stewart
>>
>> http://m.phys.org/news/2011-08-dark-illusion-quantum-vacuum.html
>>   *From:* David Roberson
>> A thought just came to me while considering alternate explanations for
>> the CMB.  Dark matter is assumed to be distributed throughout the universe
>> and is supposed to clump together around galaxy centers and other large
>> massive objects.  I have long wondered how this congregation of material
>> could occur in matter that has no way to release the gravitational energy
>> by radiation as with normal matter.  Perhaps the CMB is generated gradually
>> by the condensation of the dark matter.
>> Or … perhaps dark matter is another aspect of the Dirac Sea ?
>> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0705/0705.2908.pdf
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