Kevin, I just said stock prices will not improve before the big players come in and they are not going to read 'the report' and d raw conclusions. 'The report' will do nothing for business. After market intro the suppliers of auxiliary equipment has a market. Then there will be competition and that will be one by the one with the best position (position is technology, management, organization, capital etc.) . Hard to predict today. OK I understand your frustration. However, you have invested and it has turned out to be a hard journey. Are you going to cut your losses or are you going to ride it out. See last paragraph. It is your decision and investments has to be done with money you have set aside. (I have done it the other way . . .) and you are willing to gamble with. Then it all comes down to your skills and luck. To blame others and circumstances is futile. Outside things can be an explanation but not the cause. Your assessment of dealing with put options is correct. I would hesitate as I think such companies as the energy companies has capital and are well oiled machines (pun not intended). On the other hand there is a possibility to BIG gain. 2 years too short and I would wait until LENR is commercial. Easier to assess the situation. The ideas that market is cornered and conspiracy is dominating should keep your money out of the market. If you do not believe in your own investment than nobody else will and therefor nobody wants to buy your investments. Thus your investment will decline in value. Bad spiral - not a cliche. I would not invest without a personal engagement just for that reason. That is not an advice it is a personal opinion that fits me. I do not know how to invest in Rossi. I think that there is a price but I think it is very high and the only one that can answer your question is Rossi. I f you know there is a LENR product ready for the market - INVEST. (Let me know so I can buy one.)
Then you say "Your reasoning appears to be... I don't like it, so therefore it can't happen". That is in response too that I do not know what Jed's opinion is. Confused? I think so and full of negativism, which will take you nowhere. Yes, Enron happened. Conspiracy was perhaps a part of the game later on. I will not discuss the issue with you but that I think that some good ideas were allowed to become way too big and then illegal methods were used to camouflage the situation. My point being that the illegal actions was not a conspiracy. It was done to cover overoptimism. More common than we know and sometimes it works. Your negative and quick judgement is not conducive to catch the opportunity, in my opinion. No do not sell because Swedes are lazy or anything else to do with the Swedes. Sell if you do not think your investment is going to grow. Stop blaming others for short term disturbances in the market. Believe in your investment, get involved but stop putting blame on others. You say early in your response ; "***Well, normally I'd ask why you think such a thing, but our interaction has been a bit torturous so I'll just drop it." I did answer that above. However, I do not want you to be tortured so let us end it here. Really I think you have heard 'my two cents'. In addition I need no more opinions that are influenced by cynicism based on human behavior. In my opinion most people are meaning well. Fear and remorse are driving the negative side often without a connection to reality and never with sustainable result. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com [email protected] +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> You have identified some possible stock that might increase because of >> LENR. That is fine what is your problems? Make your investments and be >> happy. >> > ***My problem is that these guys are unconscionably delaying the report > that could boost my investment out of the clutches of penny stock delisting > and bankruptcy. > > > >> I might think that the stock market will react slowly to the report - I >> think the market introduction will be more significant and a more secure >> way to obtain the sought after gain. >> > ***Well, normally I'd ask why you think such a thing, but our interaction > has been a bit torturous so I'll just drop it. > > > >> As you have mentioned companies that have to much invested in a LENR >> market might have problems to survive if the market does not evolve soon. >> (the report will not create business). >> > ***Exactly what gives you that idea? > > > >> It is a risk assessment situation. Good luck as they say in Vegas. >> > ***And my assessment of the risk going in was that these guys would > generate their report within a reasonable timeframe. They are beyond a > reasonable timeframe. They are now into the timeframe where the most > probable reason for delay is they're trying to get their friends & family > rich. > > >> In general you are talking about investing in small companies in an early >> stage and that is hard (but sometimes very rewarding). I mentioned BP and >> Shell as I have heard how some people think they will suffer dramatically >> because of deployment of LENR. >> > ***I think those companies would suffer dramatically but I do not know how > to take advantage of it. Here on Vortex we had Blaze Spinnaker talking > about 2 stocks where you could short oil. I pointed out that if it > requires a 2 year put option, what happens in 2 years + one day? Even if > LENR breaks out, you gain nothing and lose it all. > > > >> I just think they are strong enough to be part of any significant change >> and therefore a 'negative' investment is even harder than investing in >> small companies with some ties to LENR. >> > ***A bit far off the main original point of our interaction. > > >> I have given you reasons. You just have not read them. >> > ***You have not given reasons. You have given assertions. > > > >> The environment is not conducive to your conspiracy theory. Way too >> negative. >> > ***$billions on the table has a way of generating conduciveness. "Way too > negative" is just a cliche. > > >> I said that investing with Rossi would be good. I also said I did not >> think he was looking for a partner now. In which way does that make you >> lose respect for me? Your $250k example just tell me we have the same >> opinion. Not? >> > ***Then answer the contention of exactly how is a small investor supposed > to invest in Rossi? You're obfuscating. > > I said that; 'if YOU know they are ready to offer me an address for my PO > (then you should) invest'. PO stands for purchase order, which I mentioned > previous as my goal to get my hands on an early working, commercial LENR > unit for personal use. > ***Then explain how that helps a small investor to "invest in LENR" or > even in Rossi. > > I do not know what Jed has said about how long time it takes to invest. I > say it takes rather a day than months. Yes, you need to have the funds so > if you mean that the people doing the test is out collecting money than I > understand your point. I could not even come to think along such lines. Way > to manipulative and full of no good conspiracy suspicion. > ***Your reasoning appears to be... I don't like it, so therefore it can't > happen. > > I would advice to forget your idea of conspiracy. > ***It would be a small conspiracy. 7 professors or even less. I would > advise you to familiarize yourself with what happens when humans are > tempted. Conspiracies HAVE happened in the energy space, over smaller > amounts of money and with wider numbers of people: Look at Enron, for > goodness sakes. > > Concentrate on finding the right investment for yourself and make sure it > stays right or change 'horse'. > ***You mean, sell at a loss just because these Swedes are greedy and lazy > at the same time? > > > > I hope you see this as betting in a horse race because it is early and the > outcome is rather difficult to assess - rewards are great if you can. The > report we talk about is a very insignificant factor, in my opinion. We all > would like to know where to invest. If I knew I would also look for sending > some investment money that way. > ***That is why I set up a contract at BetMoose where you can bet DIRECTLY > on the report, on Rossi, on various things. If I could figure out a way to > write a contract that skeptopaths will accuse these 7 scientists of not > being independent, I'd put all my money there. Even at a loss from where > I'm currently invested -- CYPW Cyclone Power. > > . >
