On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> You have identified some possible stock that might increase because of
> LENR. That is fine what is your problems? Make your investments and be
> happy.
>
***My problem is that these guys are unconscionably delaying the report
that could boost my investment out of the clutches of penny stock delisting
and bankruptcy.



> I might think that the stock market will react slowly to the report - I
> think the market introduction will be more significant and a more secure
> way to obtain the sought after gain.
>
***Well, normally I'd ask why you think such a thing, but our interaction
has been a bit torturous so I'll just drop it.



> As you have mentioned companies that have to much invested in a LENR
> market might have problems to survive if the market does not evolve soon.
> (the report will not create business).
>
***Exactly what gives you that idea?



> It is a risk assessment situation. Good luck as they say in Vegas.
>
***And my assessment of the risk going in was that these guys would
generate their report within a reasonable timeframe.  They are beyond a
reasonable timeframe.  They are now into the timeframe where the most
probable reason for delay is they're trying to get their friends & family
rich.


> In general you are talking about investing in small companies in an early
> stage and that is hard (but sometimes very rewarding). I mentioned BP and
> Shell as I have heard how some people think they will suffer dramatically
> because of deployment of LENR.
>
***I think those companies would suffer dramatically but I do not know how
to take advantage of it.  Here on Vortex we had Blaze Spinnaker talking
about 2 stocks where you could short oil.  I pointed out that if it
requires a 2 year put option, what happens in 2 years + one day?  Even if
LENR breaks out, you gain nothing and lose it all.



> I just think they are strong enough to be part of any significant change
> and therefore a 'negative' investment is even harder than investing in
> small companies with some ties to LENR.
>
***A bit far off the main original point of our interaction.


> I have given you reasons. You just have not read them.
>
***You have not given reasons.  You have given assertions.



> The environment is not conducive to your conspiracy theory. Way too
> negative.
>
***$billions on the table has a way of generating conduciveness.  "Way too
negative" is just a cliche.


> I said that investing with Rossi would be good. I also said I did not
> think he was looking for a partner now. In which way does that make you
> lose respect for me? Your $250k example just tell me we have the same
> opinion. Not?
>
***Then answer the contention of exactly how is a small investor supposed
to invest in Rossi?  You're obfuscating.

I said that; 'if YOU know they are ready to offer me an address for my PO
(then you should) invest'. PO stands for purchase order, which I mentioned
previous as my goal to get my hands on an early working, commercial LENR
unit for personal use.
***Then explain how that helps a small investor to "invest in LENR" or even
in Rossi.

I do not know what Jed has said about how long time it takes to invest. I
say it takes rather a day than months. Yes, you need to have the funds so
if you mean that the people doing the test is out collecting money than I
understand your point. I could not even come to think along such lines. Way
to manipulative and full of no good conspiracy suspicion.
***Your reasoning appears to be... I don't like it, so therefore it can't
happen.

 I would advice to forget your idea of conspiracy.
***It would be a small conspiracy.  7 professors or even less.  I would
advise you to familiarize yourself with what happens when humans are
tempted.  Conspiracies HAVE happened in the energy space, over smaller
amounts of money and with wider numbers of people:  Look at Enron, for
goodness sakes.

 Concentrate on finding the right investment for yourself and make sure it
stays right or change 'horse'.
***You mean, sell at a loss just because these Swedes are greedy and lazy
at the same time?



I hope you see this as betting in a horse race because it is early and the
outcome is rather difficult to assess - rewards are great if you can. The
report we talk about is a very insignificant factor, in my opinion.  We all
would like to know where to invest. If I knew I would also look for sending
some investment money that way.
***That is why I set up a contract at BetMoose where you can bet DIRECTLY
on the report, on Rossi, on various things.  If I could figure out a way to
write a contract that skeptopaths will accuse these 7 scientists of not
being independent, I'd put all my money there.  Even at a loss from where
I'm currently invested -- CYPW Cyclone Power.

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