From: Bob Higgins
I believe Peter Hagelstein is excited about the Karabut
result because he believes that Karabut demonstrates high energy x-ray
photons being synthesized by a collective sum of much lower energy lattice
phonons. If it is possible for this up-conversion to occur, then it lends
credibility to his theory that the down-conversion of high energy photons to
lattice phonons (fractionalization) can occur as he predicts with his
theory.
Bob H.
Foks0904 wrote:
I think Hagelstein draws on Karabuts work as well, but the
relevance to his model is not readily apparent as Peter's work is hard to
understand sometimes (for a layman like me), maybe other theorists have as
well but I didn't understand how his observations were incorporated into
their work.
Aha. Thanks.
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is plenty of evidence down-conversion of gammas, but the problem is
> that it is never complete nor predictable conversion and it always happens
> in a few medium sized steps instead of large packets of energy going to
> tiny
> packet in one step. Proof to follow.
>
> And seldom does gamma conversion go directly to phonons. It drops all the
> way to IR, first - and then to phonons. There is no coupling otherwise.
> Hagelstein has never been able to find a physical model for his contention,
> not even one which is remotely close - and it is amazing that he has not
> thrown in the towel on a losing battle. It simply does not happen in the
> real world.
>
> The charts embedded here show that every element in the periodic table
> downshifts gammas into x-rays first and the spectra are irregular.
> http://ie.lbl.gov/xray/mainpage.htm
>
> In no case is gamma radiation downshifted without an obvious x-ray
> signature. Curious story in these charts.... and a bona fide x-ray energy
> anomaly does turn up here. Look at the element Scandium (It is element
> 21Sc). Pay attention to the scale on the left of its chart. Then compare Sc
> with any, or all of the other secondary emitters in the periodic table.
> Incredible.
>
> Scandium is an x-ray multiplier of huge proportions, such that it appears
> to
> be OU for x-rays, in itself. This could be put to good use in LENR if there
> were gammas to multiply.
>
> From: Bob Higgins
>
> I believe Peter Hagelstein is excited about the Karabut
> result because he believes that Karabut demonstrates high energy x-ray
> photons being synthesized by a collective sum of much lower energy lattice
> phonons. If it is possible for this up-conversion to occur, then it lends
> credibility to his theory that the down-conversion of high energy photons
> to
> lattice phonons (fractionalization) can occur as he predicts with his
> theory.
>
> Bob H.
>
> Foks0904 wrote:
>
> I think Hagelstein draws on Karabuts work as well, but the
> relevance to his model is not readily apparent as Peter's work is hard to
> understand sometimes (for a layman like me), maybe other theorists have as
> well but I didn't understand how his observations were incorporated into
> their work.
>
