First, who is Carlin?  Why would I listen to the advice or opinion of a 
spoiled, liberal, elitist comedian wanna-be?

Second, I did not start the religious discussion.  Others did and I am only 
responding like I am responding to your allegations here.

Third, Those who invoke the Carlin 11th commandment is automatically guilty of 
it themselves, and hence betrays a deep level of hypocrisy.  When one utters 
"Keep thy religion to thyself." one is uttering a religious precept.  Cause 
that statement is in itself a religious statement.  This is what one blogger 
said:

"the concept of NOT having a religious viewpoint is a false philosophic 
construct. Everyone has a belief in or about God, even if that belief consists 
of the view that there is no God. Atheism still constitutes a religious 
perspective.

The anti-proselyte mantra is itself a form of proselytizing, religion 
antagonists' ignorance of the fact notwithstanding. For someone to say "keep 
your religion to yourself"demonstrates the person uttering the phrase doesn't 
practice what he or she preaches, as they are doing precisely what they’re 
admonishing the “religious” person NOT to do."


So, in fact Peter; Your lack of respect for the 11th commandment is annoying.


Jojo



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Gluck 
  To: VORTEX 
  Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL


  I was not insulted at all. Everybody is ignorant in some areas and fast 
thinking comes only with exercise. I discover new words on a daily basis
  e.g at wordsmith.org and in other sources; if I don't understand it I ask 
Google:define XXXX. I knew SWOT from industrial practice; may concepts
  and advises of the gurus of the US school of management as Deming, Juran, 
Drucker, Rohn and tens of others are invaluable help in problem solving. SWOT 
is a basic practice, nothing can replace it for R& D projects.


  I was not insulted by Jojo either, his lack of respect for the 11-th 
Commandment (a la Carlin) is a bit annoying but he makes his duty.


  And i will absolve him from any past and future sin- he has made such a 
wonderful statement: " I don't understand Axil's audacity to challenge Ed and 
come away claiming that he is more right than Ed.  I'll take Ed's worst 
speculation over Axil's best everytime".
  A fine example of pure and sincere post-logical thinking.
  So good like this one but more "earthly":
  
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/03/absolutely-wonderful-example-of-post.html


  Peter



  On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote:

    Have I insulted Peter Gluck on this thread?  Nope.  So what's yer problem?  
Log onto the threads where I have insulted these people and see for yourself 
their own attitudes.  




    On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> wrote:


      Life is too short and I have other things more important than dealing 
with your "chip on your shoulder" childish attitude.  The record shows that you 
have insulted and have been childish to many people here before I showed up.  
Here are just a sample of people you picked fights with.

      1.   Peter Gluck
      2.  Lennart Thornros
      3.  Mark at Zeropoint
      4.  Blaze Spinnaker
      5.  Dave Roberson
      6.  Me.


      Should I go on? 

      You can hve the last insult my friend,  Have at it.


      Jojo


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Kevin O'Malley 
        To: vortex-l 
        Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:34 AM
        Subject: Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL







        On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          Everyone knows that I meant to not comment on religious stuff 
anymore.  If you are too dumb to realize that, well my friend, that is your 
problem. 
        ***bullshit.  Your point number 5 had nothing to do with "religious 
stuff".  And you've continued to comment on religious stuff.  And you've 
continued to respond to me, after you said you wouldn't.  

                    Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>  
             Aug 15 (1 day ago) 
             
             
             
                    to vortex-l 


                    JOJO:  
                   
             

        This will be my last response on this subject lest I get too hyped up 
and bring the quick judgement of the mob here again.  But let me just point out 
a few things.
         ........
        5. I don't understand Axil's audacity to challenge Ed and come away 
claiming that he is more right than Ed.  I'll take Ed's worst speculation over 
Axil's best everytime.


        ***You ain't true to your word.  Your last set of speculations has the 
audacity to "challenge Ed", and you are a hypocrite to boot.  You deserve to be 
keyed up on.  I would not characterize it as bullying.  I would characterize 
your crappy attitude towards Axil and trying to remove him from this discussion 
group as bullying, "as if you are the boss here.  Grow Up".  Why should anyone 
listen to you?  







         
          I am sick of your bullying and attitude as if you are the boss here.  
GROW UP.


          Jojo


            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Kevin O'Malley 
            To: vortex-l 
            Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:11 AM
            Subject: Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL


            But this might be the right venue for Axil's latest theory because 
the one guy who introduced bibilical stuff has said he wouldn't comment on this 
subject any longer.  Well, other than the fact that he hasn't kept his word, it 
would be a good plan to have the discussion on this thread.




            On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:07 AM, James Bowery <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              The Biblical stuff has other venues.



              On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Steve High 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Hey guys is there any chance that the discussion on radiometric 
dating could be moved to another thread? Axil put a lot of work into his Egoout 
posting which I think is well-written and contains a number of interesting 
ideas. I would love to see these ideas getting batted around by the learned 
folk at vortex, but that seems to be getting crowded out by the discussion on 
radiometrics and religion. I would like to read that too, just on a different 
thread. The crux of Axil's idea seems to be that nanomagnetic excitation of the 
nucleus results in the production of virtual mesons that turn into muons that 
go on to promote  proton-proton interactions. I am wondering if these 
individual steps have received scientific exposition or validation elsewhere, 
and can all this take place without having to deal with the dreaded gamma ray?



                On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  We are talking rational history here, right?  


                  Google hits for 

                  "historicity of Bhagavad Gita"  :  3


                  "historicity of Jesus"  :  about 214,000


                  Several times, I have asked people who claim to believe the 
Bhagavad Gita, "do you really believe these are historical accounts"?  Their 
answer is basically no, it's just something they believe in.  They were raised 
believing it, so they don't rock that boat.  







                  On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Daniel Rocha 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    Yes, specifically the Bhagava Gita. This a small text about 
Jesus, in his previous incarnation, talking to Arjuna.  


                    It's very likely that Jesus was carpenter. He had a family 
to feed. Or do you think he stared at a wall until he started preaching?




                    2014-08-15 13:26 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart 
<[email protected]>: 


                      I am turning the other cheek by not reciprocating with an 
insult.

                      As for your other point, I am not sure what you want to 
prove to me.  Are these passages from the Mahabharata?



                      Jojo






                    -- 
                    Daniel Rocha - RJ 
                    [email protected]

















  -- 
  Dr. Peter Gluck
  Cluj, Romania
  http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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