This is the latest explanation for the surface temperature pause.  Why was this 
not included in the earlier models?  How many more variables remain unknown 
which might lead to errors in the future predictions?
 
This is exactly why so many question the science.   A good scientist should 
remain skeptical under these conditions and clearly the science is not settled 
as some seem to believe.
 
I suspect that most of the guys working on this problem sincerely believe that 
what their models predict is accurate.  Some might fudge the numbers when in 
doubt of the best values but how can we blame them for being frustrated?  We 
just need to ensure that the results of these models is filtered with the 
proper skeptical inputs.

The earth has a messy climate that changes in strange ways.  It has gone 
through periods of extreme cold and warmth.  It seldom remains constant for 
long periods of time when measured on geological time frames and we need to 
accept that fact as normal.  The contributions of man to the process remain a 
mystery that is yet to be resolved.  If our tinkering with the atmosphere leads 
to an eventual rapid cool down, then we are in trouble.  Crops grow better in 
warm weather than under ice age conditions, so it is a good thing that the 
temperature is heading in the right direction.  My biggest fear is that our 
temporary heating phase might bring on the major cold spell more rapidly than 
it would occur otherwise.   It just seems logical to me that a return to 
dangerous cold climate lay ahead for future generations to encounter.
 
Dave
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 12:13 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?


There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and 
southern sea saline inversion.



On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Chris Zell <[email protected]> wrote:


Fraud is too strong a word.  Last I heard, there was controversy about 
including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high).  Some people 
would discard them as an outlier, others would include them entirely. I can 
understand both opinions.
 
 




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