This is the latest explanation for the surface temperature pause. Why was this not included in the earlier models? How many more variables remain unknown which might lead to errors in the future predictions? This is exactly why so many question the science. A good scientist should remain skeptical under these conditions and clearly the science is not settled as some seem to believe. I suspect that most of the guys working on this problem sincerely believe that what their models predict is accurate. Some might fudge the numbers when in doubt of the best values but how can we blame them for being frustrated? We just need to ensure that the results of these models is filtered with the proper skeptical inputs.
The earth has a messy climate that changes in strange ways. It has gone through periods of extreme cold and warmth. It seldom remains constant for long periods of time when measured on geological time frames and we need to accept that fact as normal. The contributions of man to the process remain a mystery that is yet to be resolved. If our tinkering with the atmosphere leads to an eventual rapid cool down, then we are in trouble. Crops grow better in warm weather than under ice age conditions, so it is a good thing that the temperature is heading in the right direction. My biggest fear is that our temporary heating phase might bring on the major cold spell more rapidly than it would occur otherwise. It just seems logical to me that a return to dangerous cold climate lay ahead for future generations to encounter. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 12:13 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming? There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and southern sea saline inversion. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Chris Zell <[email protected]> wrote: Fraud is too strong a word. Last I heard, there was controversy about including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high). Some people would discard them as an outlier, others would include them entirely. I can understand both opinions.

