I consider your point valid Jojo. How many additional effects will be found and contrived to explain why the current models are in error? Until we have a handle on all of the components we have essentially nothing of value. Some organization needs to step up and demand that the models demonstrate reasonably accurate predictions. This reminds me of how upset most engineers would become if their filter software designed a low pass filter when they were expecting a bandpass one.
Some day in the future the climate models will achieve stable and accurate results. That might take 30 years or might happen in just a few, but until that time comes it is not wise to accept results that are proven seriously wrong every few years and patched up until the next problem comes to light. How many recall the disruption that arouse when continental drift was proposed? The settled science as well as every consensus taken among geologists would keep us in the dark ages regarding this issue. The first proponents of drift were considered idiots to suggest such a stupid idea. There are many parallels between what the consensus groups of both of these issues believe. But science is not advanced by consensus and that is a good thing. It is better to keep the door open for decent as we keep attempting in LENR research. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 1:28 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming? I hope my point is now ultra clear to readers. Axil is basically saying the temperature oscillation is related to Global Warming. Hence, my point, that Global Warming theory has an "all-inclusive" symptoms list. Everything is due to Global warming. INTRACTABLE RIDICULOUSNESS!!!! Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming? There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and southern sea saline inversion. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Chris Zell <[email protected]> wrote: Fraud is too strong a word. Last I heard, there was controversy about including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high). Some people would discard them as an outlier, others would include them entirely. I can understand both opinions.
