This has got to be a joke, right?
Foks sez: believers in Heat-helium are “Faith- based” LOL… that makes my day. In fact, since there are no gammas, there is no valid scientific conclusion other than that the fusion of deuterium to helium cannot be responsible for gain. But – if you are a true-believer and not a scientist - what difference does logic and factuality make? This is not to say that helium cannot appear with excess heat. It can. However, if we want to stay away from the faith-based nonsense you are spouting here, the only thing which we can be sure of, based on nuclear physics - is that the helium did not come from the fusion of two deuterons to helium-4. Jones From: Foks0904 I appreciate & respect Mizuno myself, and perhaps his new experiment will reveal something of real value moving forward, but to pin all your hopes on a single, non-replicated blown-out-of-proportion experiment, while at the same time dismissing over a dozen time-tested studies of the heat/helium correlation in PdD (some direct replications of others while others are merely similar) goes beyond willful ignorance in my opinion. This is just classic pseudoskeptical logic being interjected into an argument between "believers" in hopes of making a case for an ego-driven-theory (or theories) that has very little connection to experimental reality.The arguments against the Miles work is nothing new, has never been brought to task in a peer review, or even quasi-peer reviewed, and Jones is now just trying to save face (pointlessly so) because he made a mistake by trying to "blow the lid off" (just like Krivit) with this red-herring PPB vs. PPM distinction (as Jed & Mel have made abundantly clear). "Disbelievers" in heat/helium are welcome to that opinion, but it is a "faith-based" argument in terms of the actual probabilities/percentages. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: I wrote: In any case, their cells produced about a thousand times more power than Miles . . . Correction: ~200 to ~500 times more power. I have no idea whether these cells were gas tight enough to collect helium. Most cells are not. - Jed

