Loosely related questionable power generation experiment... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCx89BRbVeU
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Randy, > > No scientist would calibrate for 500 if they knew that the reaction is > going > to 1400. And they should have known in advance, based on the previous > results. > > The reason for this, which you may not be aware of, is that changes in > temperature at the high end get multiplied by an equation called the > Stefan-Boltzmann Law. Please look at the curve shown on this site > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan%E2%80%93Boltzmann_law > > You can see in this curve - that small changes exponentially increase into > huge changes in the power estimate. The technique they are using does not > really measure temperature, it measure photon emission and plugs that into > a > formula. However, had they used a platinum thermocouple or a pyrometer, > there would be no problem. They knew this from the previous criticism but > ignored it (or else the idea was vetoes by AR). > > The result is that calibration to 500 only means what it says, the active > reactor temperature can be trusted up to this level. Near 1000 however, a > small error is multiplied into a huge error. > _____________________________________________ > From: Randy Wuller > Jones: > > In fairness to this process it also says of the dummy > reactor test that “Rossi gradually brought it to the power level THEY > requested” (emphasis added). It doesn’t say that the test power level was > determined or demanded by Rossi. The fact he turned it off after they had > what they wanted is not the same as saying they didn’t test at a higher > level “ON ORDERS FROM ROSSI”. > > I am not saying the test was adequate or inadequate, I am > not qualified. But some of what is happening here is not objective and may > be driven by other motives, i.e the same as the nonsense you usually see > from Krivit. > > Ransom > > _____________________________________________ > From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Determining the transmittance . . . of > semitransparent materials at elevated temperatures > > > You seem to be saying that it is not found in the “revised” > or edited version? There is an edited version of the report, in which > details like this are removed. Rothwell, no doubt, would chose to only read > the edited version. > > From: Blaze Spinnaker > > Care to share where you saw this? > > The dummy reactor was switched on at 12:20 > PM of 24 February 2014 by Andrea Rossi who gradually brought it to the > power > level requested by us. Rossi later intervened to switch off the dummy, and > in the following subsequent operations on the E-Cat: charge insertion, > reactor startup, reactor shutdown and powder charge extraction. Throughout > the test, no further intervention or interference on his part occurred; > moreover, all phases of the test were monitored directly by the > collaboration > > > They did not calibrate above 450 C and this > was not done ON ORDERS FROM ROSSI > > JR: It does not say that anywhere. > >
