One issue that tends to support the thought that the internal energy can vanish 
without a visible trace is that the man onboard the ship can detect that he is 
undergoing acceleration while the drive is active.  If it is eventually 
confirmed that a force arises from the activation of the drive then energy will 
be imparted onto the ship according to his measurements.
 
Even though all velocities are considered relative, a change in velocity can 
usually be determined.  That is reason to sustain hope for reactionless drives 
becoming a reality.  It remains to be proven that the force obtained will be 
practical.  So far there is reason to suspect that it does not exit at all.

Dave
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:They call me a moron. A reply.


In reply to  David Roberson's message of Mon, 24 Nov 2014 00:06:09 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>I agree Axil.  And those particles that are produced are then given the 
momentum required to balance out that obtained by the ship.  Also, they must 
remain in existence as real particles and not disappear after a brief time 
interval.  The folks who speak of reactionless drives claim that their are no 
measurable particles remaining to locate after the momentum is imparted into 
the 
ship.  That is where I can not agree.
>
>Dave
Perhaps, because they are only virtual particles, they are still connected to
the ZPF, and hence are effectively infinitely massive. That would mean that the
energy imparted to the particles would approach zero, while still allowing
transfer of momentum.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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