Richard:

I have an Airlite SW that weighs 11 ounces. I sometimes go trail runnning
and carry it with me in a fanny pack. (Cougars are not uncommon in Issaquah
where I live -we have actually seen one in our yard before.) Here are a
couple of suggestions; Kimber .45 cal Ultra in stainless steel, S.W.
Airlite, Kahr .40cal, or any of the plastic guns e.g. Glock, Sig, etc. 

http://www.galleryofguns.com/

On thing not mentioned yet. Guns are a lot of fun to plink with. Sometimes
if the fishing is poor
it is fun diversion to blast some hapless pine cones if there is a safe
place to shoot. 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: rderedfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Weapon?


I think it's just you, Roger; it's probably those folks who heard about you
and how you feel about yuppies (those two yokels were probably yuppies in
redneck camouflage).  <grin>

It's interesting that you have had that many circumstances.  I fish anywhere
from 30-45 days per year, and haven't had one circumstance like any of those
you shared.  But, I do admit that I usually don't fish in remote areas or
near Spangle  . . . (I realize that's a redundant comment)

All kidding aside, I too have been contemplating the purchase of a sidearm
to accompany me on some of my trips.  I'd rather have it and not need it
than need it and not have it.   Smith & Wesson is making some super light
revolvers that weigh like 11 ounces (!!), which weighs less than some of my
fly boxes.  However, the concern I've always had with toting a firearm is
keeping it in a place that is accessible but it doesn't get wet.  Kinda
tough given the nature of fly fishing, wading, boating, and all that stuff.

If you have some info or comments on how to keep the sidearm dry (and don't
mind sharing it with someone who drives a yuppie rig and uses/loves Sage and
Orvis products) I'd enjoy you sharing them with me.

Richard

P.S.  It will be interesting to see the nature of the comments your receive
regarding firearms.  I think there will be differing firearm sentiment
depending whether the fly fisher lives west or east of the Cascades.

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:05 AM
Subject: Weapon?


> Any thoughts out there, or personal experiences, where carrying a weapon
while flyfishing has been an advantage.  I have a concealed carry permit and
have had for at least 30 years, as I used to make bank deposits for my
company after hours.  Even though I have retired from that company, I have
kept the permit current, but rarely, except when going somewhere remote,
even take my weapon.  Several years ago I was fishing the Yak just off I-90.
I was parked on a frontage road less than 150 feet off of, and in full view
of the Interstate near Easton.  I was on a dead end frontage road and had
turned the car around prior to walking down to the river.  Upon returning to
the car, two unsavory looking fellows driving an old blue Nova came tearing
down this frontage road and spun their car around and deliberately blocked
my car from going anyshere.  I had my pistol in the trunk, as as they were
getting out of their car and approaching me, I quickly walked to the rear of
my car, and po!
> pped the trunk opener. I then re
> ached into the trunk, grabbed the gun which was in a clip on holster, and
walked back to where they could see me put it on my belt.  I never drew the
weapon, just showed that I had it.  The fellows involved left so fast that I
am not sure their feet or the car were even touching the ground.
> The purpose of bringing this up is that I have had several instances over
the past five years where, when by myself, I have been accosted.  In each of
these merely letting the other party be aware that I was armed, by letting
them see the holstered weapon, made the difference.  I know from reading
past posts that some in this group hunt as well as fish.  I am sure that
some feel very uncomfortable around firearms.  The purpose for my question
is not to get into the the guns versus no guns debate.  Rather I would like
to see if it is just me who is running into situations like the above, or if
it is becoming a widespread problem.  In none of the situations involved
have I even instigated so much as a conversation beforehand with the perps.
Just seems to be a bunch of people out there looking for trouble, kicks,
etc.  I know many areas have experienced car breakins, etc.  The basin lakes
in eastern Washington seem to be a hot spot for this type of activity.  I
have been threate!
> d several times at Nunnaly.  If
> any of you remember Gene Armstrong who worked at Kaufmanns in Belleve, he
had several similiar instances he related to me.
>
>   I know guns, know how to use them, was brought up with guns in a rural
setting, and feel comfortable around them.  I also am keenly aware that if
one carries a gun he better be prepared to use it, and not have it used
against ones self. I am also well aware of the legal and moral ramifications
of carrying and using a weapon.
>
> I would really appreciate thoughts, experiences, etc. on how to protect
yourself.  Unfortunately, it is becoming more and more a common occurance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roger
>
>

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