Hi Ronni, I did that and still no good. I then did a "Clear all content and 
settings" and then restore from backup - same issue after setup.

I am puzzled by my inability to being able to get into the "Manage your Apple 
ID" page. When logging in I am presented with "Update your Apple ID". A bit of 
a Catch 22 situation. To get into Update the Apple ID, I need to be able to log 
in, I am unable to log in as I am presented with "Update your Apple ID" BEFORE 
I can go any further.

This issue with Messages below is only affecting ONE device out of 13 in my 
family, and at that, it is just affecting the ability to send iMessages - for 
my 9 yo daughter! Hardly the strongest motivator for me to resolve urgently, 
but my conviction requires me to sort it! I know if I don't sort it, one day it 
will bite me when I can least afford it.

A parallel question if there are others out there with the same set up - ie all 
family members with ONE Apple ID across all devices for multiple family 
members. The introduction of the Family Share feature came AFTER I had numerous 
family members all with Apple devices/MacBooks and all with the same Apple ID. 
It has worked successfully for years - easy app sharing, Photos sharing, etc 
and easy enough to manage security with kids buying/not buying apps without 
authority. Do others recommend staying with one Apple ID for all family members 
OR make the change to a Family Share arrangement where each family member has 
their own Apple ID yet linked within the Crisp Family for the ability to share 
apps and other features? How does one migrate all these devices to their 
respecive new user specific Apple ID and what are the up and downsides to this? 
Does Find my iPhone when migrated to a Family Shared arrangement present all 
Family devices in the one panel (for the Family) as it does currently for me - 
or will I have to use Find my Friends for other family members? 

Regards


Pete

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 4:30 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Try - Put the iPad in recovery mode and set it up again.
> You can then restore your device without signing out of Find my iPad.
> 
> 1. Connect your device to your computer and open iTunes.
> 2. While your device is connected, force restart it: 
> Press and hold both the Sleep/Wake and Home button for at least 10 seconds, 
> and don't release when you see the Apple logo. Keep holding until you see the 
> recovery mode screen.
> 3. When you see the option to Restore or Update, choose Restore
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2016, at 3:20 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, thanks, well I am trying now to erase the iPad but I get into a 
>> vicious circle I can't seem to get out of - which probably explains the 
>> iMessages problem I'm having anyway. So if I break the loop I'm in then the 
>> problem will probably solve itself. 
>> 
>> Anyway, I can't erase because to do that requires an AppleID login on the 
>> iPad and response from the iPad is "Verification Failed, There was an error 
>> connecting to the Apple ID server". So Find my iPad cannot be turned off and 
>> hence I cannot do an "Erase all content and settings". 
>> 
>> Not sure how else I can do this, I suppose I could call Apple support for 
>> help there and some Googling on "Verification Failed" to see what to do.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:22 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> Have you tried a hard reset on the iPad?
>>> First try resetting your device (nothing will be lost): 
>>> Hold down the Home and Power buttons at the same time and continue to hold 
>>> them down until the Apple logo appears (up to 30 seconds). 
>>> 
>>> Once the Slide to Unlock screen redisplays, see if the option appears under 
>>> the Send and Receive section.
>>> 
>>> If that doesn't work, try what you mentioned below 'erase the iPad and set 
>>> up as new device'.
>>> Sign out of iCloud and turn off Find My iPhone, then Go to 
>>> Settings>Reset>Reset All Content and Settings.
>>> 
>>> This will completely erase the iPad and allow you to set it up as a new 
>>> device.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 9:54 AM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for this Ronni, that is bizarre, in the "You can be reached by 
>>>> imessage at" section, her email address is ticked and that is all that is 
>>>> ticked (she has no phone number). At this same screen there is no section 
>>>> "Start new conversations from" at all. 
>>>> 
>>>> I probably need to do a restore to factory settings. Seems the app is not 
>>>> right on the iPad. 
>>>> 
>>>> By contrast my own iPad has the appropriate selections ticked in both the 
>>>> "You can be reached by imessage at" and "Start new conversations from" 
>>>> sections.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 9:14 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In her settings > Messages - Send & Receive - 'You can be reached by 
>>>>> iMessage at' and 'Start new conversations from' 
>>>>> What does she have in both?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 9:00 AM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm having a problem getting messages to properly behave on my 
>>>>>> daughter's iPad mini. It has worked well in the past. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can send her a message from my iPhone (goes blue) and it is received 
>>>>>> but does not show as delivered on my iPhone. If sending a message from 
>>>>>> her iPad, it seems to process as though sent but is not received by me 
>>>>>> or others who have fully operational messages functionality.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've done a reset, sign out of icloud and back in, checked date and 
>>>>>> time, find my iPhone off and back on. She is the only one in my family 
>>>>>> who doesn't have an iPhone so it is not connected to a mobile number but 
>>>>>> I don't think that matters.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any other clues? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
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