Hi again, I spent half an hour on the phone to apple support. The lady was very helpful and convinced me that I will have to change my Apple ID password. BUT, before I do that, I’d like to understand if there is sufficient motivational pressure to make the move to a Family Shared environment at the same time - or even in a serial fashion.
Anyone have any first hand experience of Family Sharing with multiple family members and with >10 devices? Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au > On 29 Jun 2016, at 7:22 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Ronni, thanks for your in situ replies. See my replies alongside below. > > > Peter Crisp > petercr...@westnet.com.au <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> > > > >> On 29 Jun 2016, at 1:13 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com >> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> My comments in situ. >> >>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 8:15 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au >>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronni, I did that and still no good. I then did a "Clear all content and >>> settings" and then restore from backup - same issue after setup. >>> >>> I am puzzled by my inability to being able to get into the "Manage your >>> Apple ID" page. When logging in I am presented with "Update your Apple ID". >>> A bit of a Catch 22 situation. To get into Update the Apple ID, I need to >>> be able to log in, I am unable to log in as I am presented with "Update >>> your Apple ID" BEFORE I can go any further. >> >> Sounds like Apple wants you to update your password to a more secure >> password and add ‘two-factor authentication' if you haven’t already. >> <https://appleid.apple.com <https://appleid.apple.com/>> < >> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303 >> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303>> > > I’ll review the links on this. >> >>> This issue with Messages below is only affecting ONE device out of 13 in my >>> family, and at that, it is just affecting the ability to send iMessages - >>> for my 9 yo daughter! Hardly the strongest motivator for me to resolve >>> urgently, but my conviction requires me to sort it! I know if I don't sort >>> it, one day it will bite me when I can least afford it. >> >> Are you sure your daughter’s email is working on her iPad and that iMessage >> is activated & her email address is ‘verified’? > > I haven’t yet launched into Mail for her. She has an email address which I > created for her for the sole purpose of enabling iMessages (she has a wifi > only iPad). iMessage is indeed activated (switched to green) and her email > address I believe is verified as it appears in the pick list of available > email addresses and phone numbers in the “You can be reached by iMessage at” > section across all of the 8 iOS devices in the family. However, as I am > unable to log into my Apple ID manage screen, I can’t confirm this. BUT, it > has worked in the past with Delivery notices in iMessages etc, is it possible > for it to have become unverified somehow? > >> >> Have you checked the settings in Messages on daughter’s iPad that iMessage >> is activated after the iPad was offline (not connected to the Network)? >> Settings > Messages > turn iMessage ON and wait for it to activate. > > Activation works fine - it goes to the green position after 5 or so seconds. > Been on the wifi network the whole time - haven’t left the house even. > >> >> These instructions work for times when you need to re-activate iMessage due >> to a network error. >> Just toggle it on and off. > > I have toggled it off and on a number of times. > >> >>> >>> A parallel question if there are others out there with the same set up - ie >>> all family members with ONE Apple ID across all devices for multiple family >>> members. The introduction of the Family Share feature came AFTER I had >>> numerous family members all with Apple devices/MacBooks and all with the >>> same Apple ID. It has worked successfully for years - easy app sharing, >>> Photos sharing, etc and easy enough to manage security with kids buying/not >>> buying apps without authority. Do others recommend staying with one Apple >>> ID for all family members OR make the change to a Family Share arrangement >>> where each family member has their own Apple ID yet linked within the Crisp >>> Family for the ability to share apps and other features? How does one >>> migrate all these devices to their respecive new user specific Apple ID and >>> what are the up and downsides to this? Does Find my iPhone when migrated to >>> a Family Shared arrangement present all Family devices in the one panel >>> (for the Family) as it does currently for me - or will I have to use Find >>> my Friends for other family >>> members? >> >> Turning on Family Sharing automatically adds all family members to each >> others’ Find My Friends >> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-friends/id466122094?mt=8>app, so >> you can find out where each family member is (or, to be more accurate, where >> each person’s primary iOS device is). >> >> Family Sharing requires Yosemite or iOS 8, so use it only if all your >> family’s devices are running the latest versions of their respective >> operating systems. >> If your family fits that profile, here’s what you’ll get for up to six >> family members: >> >> • All family members’ purchases of media from Apple are charged to the >> credit card of the person you designate as the family organizer. (Family >> members who have enough credit in their own Apple ID accounts can use that >> credit to buy something without using the shared card.) >> >> • Kids (who can get special Apple IDs of their own even if they’re under 13) >> can request media purchases from a parent, who must approve each one >> individually. >> >> (Kids under 13 can have their own Apple IDs >> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201084>. As a parent or legal guardian, >> the organizer creates the child’s Apple ID You’ll have to select an iCloud >> username for your child (which will become the child’s Apple ID) and adds >> the child to the family group. >> Ask to Buy is turned on by default, and the organizer can also limit the >> content kids have access to on their devices through Restrictions on an iOS >> device or parental controls in OS X and iTunes.) >> >> • All family members can access each others’ media, although you can hide >> particular items of your own that you don’t want to share. >> >> • A shared family photo album, calendar, and reminder list are created. >> >> • Family members can more easily share their locations (with Find My >> Friends) and locate their devices (with Find My Device). >> >> Details and instructions how to setup Family Sharing at this link: >> <http://www.apple.com/icloud/family-sharing/ >> <http://www.apple.com/icloud/family-sharing/>> > > Thanks for the links on Family Sharing - I will review all of them. This > looks to be something I could do sometime. However, for what specific reason > should I change to a Family Sharing environment as opposed to staying with an > all-users-to-one Apple ID. It has worked fine for many years. Whilst the > Apple literature now says you shouldn’t have anyone but yourself on one Apple > ID, it doesn’t mandate that you can’t have your entire family on one Apple ID > - as it was in the early years necessarily so that you had no choice if you > wanted to have your family see your stuff and not have to buy apps multiple > times for one family - before Family Sharing became an option. Is the > migration to Family Sharing for the 4 other family members with the aggregate > 10 devices a seamless, no data lost exercise? It will be no small undertaking > to get all apps with their respective Apple ID embedment and iTunes on > MacBooks all converted over and for it not to go belly up at some point. > >> >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >> >> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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