Hi Alan, Spotlight takes quite a long time as it has to Reindex the drive. Also when it has finished. Check your hard drive do a Repair in Disk Utility. Just use Disk Utility on the iMac to Repair the drive, might be a couple of ‘niggles’ need repairing on the Drive.
Cheers Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus > On 29 Apr 2018, at 10:43 am, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Ronni > > An update, just for information. > > Couldn’t resist getting on with the job. I did a complete restoration from > the SuperDuper bootable backup. There was a problem. > > Very slow on restarting first time after Restore. Not all menu bar app > icons had loaded. I allowed a few minutes but no progress. I started a song > in iTunes and it worked - for about one minute, then the system crashed. > “Your computer was restarted because of a problem”. The problem report of > the panic showed BSD process was mds. Comment was “a freed zone element has > been modified: expected (x) but found (y) etc”. So probably just a > Spotlight indexing issue. > > I did an SMC reset. Mac now looks ok, menu bar icons ok and iTunes music > has been playing ok for last hour. > > I can now gradually do all the little things before I try for another High > Sierra download. > > Cheers > Alan > > >> On 28 Apr 2018, at 8:58 pm, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Ronni >> >> I exclude ~/Music from TM backups because there is no need for it. I have >> several other copies of my iTunes music, apart from formal SuperDuper >> backups. On other devices I try to keep such libraries on an external drive >> to keep the actual computer clean and mean. The 2009 Mac iTunes library >> also has a changing content of videos copied from my master collection on an >> external drive. I keep a selection of favourite videos for those Apple TV >> times when I am immobile and the Mac mini is otherwise occupied with Eye TV >> recording or processing. I used to get video artefacts from time to time >> when the more powerful 27 inch iMac had to do all the work. By the way, >> most of my home network is wired ethernet. >> >> With three computers writing their Time Machine backups to one Time Capsule >> drive I found large backups worked but were were often delayed. Time >> Machine backups from three computers to the equivalent Netgear router were >> not reliably managed at all. I bought the Netgear because the Time Capsule >> showed early signs of failure. In practice I run dual backups for each >> computer using a local external drive plus the central Time Capsule. I >> even run a third TM backup for the main 27 inch iMac to a “network" drive on >> the Netgear router. It copes with a single data source without issues. >> >> The 2009 iMac local external dedicated Time Machine drive is a Firewire 800 >> WD My Book Studio. This is quick and easy to use. The SuperDuper backup >> shares a partitioned drive with the 27 inch Mac on a Seagate GoFlex drive >> that annoys me a bit. It always makes lots of clunky sounds whenever it is >> plugged in - possibly clogging up Spotlight with unwanted data! And I’ve >> used Time Machine Restore previously and found it quick, quiet and reliable. >> And I’ve not made a full Restore using SuperDuper before. >> >> Why would you re-install the complete os and data, including the iTunes >> files, anyway? >> >> My current thoughts about the problem is that is NOT an endless loop of one >> download after another. I think the real download fails very early in the >> sequence, but the App Server just keeps pumping out bytes but there is no >> “Install” file to write it to. >> >> Thank you, I received your H.S. Upgrade tutorial and all conditions are >> fulfilled or in hand. Must catch up with my real life so will not have so >> much time for this simple little task of installing HS for a while. >> >> And thanks again for keeping me at the task and for your prompt responses. >> >> Cheers >> Alan >> >> >>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 12:39 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Alan, >>> >>> Why would you exclude your ~/Music folder from TM backups when you wanted >>> to use the 2009 iMac to listen to music? >>> Why didn’t you do a complete system restore using your SuperDuper! backup >>> that has your complete system backed up - that you did just before you >>> commenced trying to upgrade the iMac to High Sierra? >>> >>> 1. I would do a full system restore from the SuperDuper! backup first as it >>> has the whole computer system (including ~/Music folder) backed up. >>> >>> 2.Then if you received my tutorial ‘PREPARE TO UPGRADE TO HIGH SIERRA 10.13 >>> I sent to you “OffList” last night. Follow that, before attempting to >>> download and install High Sierra! >>> >>>> The full SuperDuper backup is 142.9 GB. The ~/Music folder is 118.7 GB. >>>> Therefore OS and data is 23.2 GB. >>> >>> My calculation is 24.2GB but it’s not really important. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>> >>> >>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 10:34 am, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ronni >>>> >>>> The whole system was restored from Time Machine except for the ~/Music >>>> folder which is excluded in backup options. >>>> >>>> The newly restored 2009 iMac with OSX 10.9.5 Mavericks is 23.99 GB. >>>> The full SuperDuper backup is 142.9 GB. The ~/Music folder is 118.7 GB. >>>> Therefore OS and data is 23.2 GB. >>>> >>>> How is this so? I have three Macs. >>>> >>>> The 27 inch late 2012 iMac (High Sierra) is my workhorse. This was >>>> bought to replace the 21.5 inch late 2009 iMac (Mavericks) which had an >>>> argument with lightning and lost its ethernet port. The “new" computer >>>> developed a problem during 2017 - it shuts itself down after being active >>>> for around 5 days and requires an SMC reset before restarting. Not very >>>> useful for EyeTV recording and AppleTV etc. I eventually took it to the >>>> Apple Genius Bar for repair. Not happy about that experience. Suffice to >>>> say they didn’t fix it. Hence - - >>>> >>>> I bought an SSD Mac mini as my media machine. Stays powered on 24/7 for >>>> EyeTV recording and processing, and for Apple TV. Most data (movies etc) >>>> are on an external high capacity hard drive. Hence - - >>>> >>>> The 2009 Mavericks machine became my kitchen computer which I use it for >>>> Safari, playing music and occasional Zoom video meetings. I only >>>> occasionally shut it down even 'tho it is a gas guzzler compared to the >>>> later model Macs. >>>> >>>> Yes, Ronni, I did Restore (almost) the whole system! >>>> >>>> I will restore the Music folder from the SuperDuper backup. I will check >>>> out the computer and prepare it for High Sierra. May take a few days. >>>> >>>> What is your advice for the next step? Try a new App Store download? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 7:58 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Alan, >>>>> >>>>> I asked you to Restore the whole system! It will take much longer than >>>>> 20mins. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Restore the complete contents of your hard drive from the Time Machine >>>>>>>> backup you did before you commenced trying to upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>>>>> Or Restore from the SuperDuper you did before you commenced trying to >>>>>>>> upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>> >>>>> Time Machine automatically backs up your entire Mac, including system >>>>> files, applications, accounts, preferences, email messages, music, >>>>> photos, movies, and documents. >>>>> >>>>> Restore From Time Machine Backup: Restore your Mac from an external hard >>>>> drive or Time Capsule that contains a Time Machine backup of your Mac. >>>>> >>>>> How to restore your hard drive from a Time Machine backup >>>>> Whether you're having major problems with your current hard drive or >>>>> upgrading to a new Mac, Time Machine can help you get back to business. >>>>> >>>>> Power up your Mac and hold down the Command and R keys to enter the macOS >>>>> Recovery Partition. Your Mac should boot to a screen that says macOS >>>>> Utilities. >>>>> Select Restore from Time Machine Backup and click Continue. >>>>> Read the info on the Restore Your System page and click Continue. >>>>> Select your Time Machine backup and click Continue. >>>>> Select the most recent backup of your hard disk and click Continue. >>>>> Your Mac will then restore the Time Machine backup; once it's done it >>>>> will restart. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 7:07 am, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Correction and update! >>>>>> >>>>>> There is probably no missing data or folders. I forgot that ~/Music is >>>>>> excluded from TM backups. Also I don’t use Mail on this iMac so the >>>>>> Contacts app would have no cards. Sorry for this. I assume Recovery >>>>>> Mode looked at the total history data of Time Machine to calculate the >>>>>> remaining restoration time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will proceed with normal testing of apps and data - and will wait for >>>>>> Ronni’s advice before I attempt a new download of High Sierra. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 6:23 am, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did a restore from Time Machine via Recovery mode for data at 25 >>>>>>> April, but got a strange outcome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After about 20 minutes with around 15% restore and estimated 2 hours >>>>>>> remaining, I got the “Restore Succeeded” window with a “Restart to >>>>>>> Continue" banner. This proceeded normally to login and then to prompts >>>>>>> similar to a new OS installation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The desktop display looked normal superficially. The Dock showed some >>>>>>> apps that had been removed some time ago. The Finder sidebar showed the >>>>>>> default options, not my preferences. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I opened a few apps. Some seemed OK but Contacts only has 2 cards >>>>>>> (Apple inc and Me) and iTunes gave a “no library found” message. The >>>>>>> “Music” folder in the Home directory is empty - no iTunes folders! >>>>>>> Finder shows 975GB available on the 1TB hard drive. I was expecting >>>>>>> around 850GB free. iTunes would probably account for most of the >>>>>>> missing data - say 65GB music plus some movies and videos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not attempted any data recovery or conducted detailed tests of >>>>>>> apps. I will wait for your comments before I proceed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Alan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 27 Apr 2018, at 8:13 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Alan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 27 Apr 2018, at 6:21 pm, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It might be best to go back and install the backup you did in >>>>>>>>>> Mavericks 10.9.5 before you commenced trying to upgrade to High >>>>>>>>>> Sierra. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you mean reinstall the OS via the Recovery utility or a complete >>>>>>>>> copy of OS and data from Time Machine (or Super Super)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Restore the complete contents of your hard drive from the Time Machine >>>>>>>> backup you did before you commenced trying to upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>>>>> Or Restore from the SuperDuper you did before you commenced trying to >>>>>>>> upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The SuperDuper Manual will show you How To Restore from SD Backup. >>>>>>>> If you need more details I did a PDF Tutorial for a client some time >>>>>>>> back … "How to Restore from a SuperDuper! Backup.pdf” >>>>>>>> If you need details how to "Restore the complete contents of your hard >>>>>>>> drive from a Time Machine backup” I’ll post details to the list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been doing support work since 5:30am this morning, so I’m now >>>>>>>> signing off for tonight. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >>>>>>>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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