Hi Ronni I exclude ~/Music from TM backups because there is no need for it. I have several other copies of my iTunes music, apart from formal SuperDuper backups. On other devices I try to keep such libraries on an external drive to keep the actual computer clean and mean. The 2009 Mac iTunes library also has a changing content of videos copied from my master collection on an external drive. I keep a selection of favourite videos for those Apple TV times when I am immobile and the Mac mini is otherwise occupied with Eye TV recording or processing. I used to get video artefacts from time to time when the more powerful 27 inch iMac had to do all the work. By the way, most of my home network is wired ethernet.
With three computers writing their Time Machine backups to one Time Capsule drive I found large backups worked but were were often delayed. Time Machine backups from three computers to the equivalent Netgear router were not reliably managed at all. I bought the Netgear because the Time Capsule showed early signs of failure. In practice I run dual backups for each computer using a local external drive plus the central Time Capsule. I even run a third TM backup for the main 27 inch iMac to a “network" drive on the Netgear router. It copes with a single data source without issues. The 2009 iMac local external dedicated Time Machine drive is a Firewire 800 WD My Book Studio. This is quick and easy to use. The SuperDuper backup shares a partitioned drive with the 27 inch Mac on a Seagate GoFlex drive that annoys me a bit. It always makes lots of clunky sounds whenever it is plugged in - possibly clogging up Spotlight with unwanted data! And I’ve used Time Machine Restore previously and found it quick, quiet and reliable. And I’ve not made a full Restore using SuperDuper before. Why would you re-install the complete os and data, including the iTunes files, anyway? My current thoughts about the problem is that is NOT an endless loop of one download after another. I think the real download fails very early in the sequence, but the App Server just keeps pumping out bytes but there is no “Install” file to write it to. Thank you, I received your H.S. Upgrade tutorial and all conditions are fulfilled or in hand. Must catch up with my real life so will not have so much time for this simple little task of installing HS for a while. And thanks again for keeping me at the task and for your prompt responses. Cheers Alan > On 28 Apr 2018, at 12:39 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > Why would you exclude your ~/Music folder from TM backups when you wanted to > use the 2009 iMac to listen to music? > Why didn’t you do a complete system restore using your SuperDuper! backup > that has your complete system backed up - that you did just before you > commenced trying to upgrade the iMac to High Sierra? > > 1. I would do a full system restore from the SuperDuper! backup first as it > has the whole computer system (including ~/Music folder) backed up. > > 2.Then if you received my tutorial ‘PREPARE TO UPGRADE TO HIGH SIERRA 10.13 I > sent to you “OffList” last night. Follow that, before attempting to download > and install High Sierra! > >> The full SuperDuper backup is 142.9 GB. The ~/Music folder is 118.7 GB. >> Therefore OS and data is 23.2 GB. > > My calculation is 24.2GB but it’s not really important. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > > > On 28 Apr 2018, at 10:34 am, Alan Smith <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Hi Ronni >> >> The whole system was restored from Time Machine except for the ~/Music >> folder which is excluded in backup options. >> >> The newly restored 2009 iMac with OSX 10.9.5 Mavericks is 23.99 GB. >> The full SuperDuper backup is 142.9 GB. The ~/Music folder is 118.7 GB. >> Therefore OS and data is 23.2 GB. >> >> How is this so? I have three Macs. >> >> The 27 inch late 2012 iMac (High Sierra) is my workhorse. This was bought >> to replace the 21.5 inch late 2009 iMac (Mavericks) which had an argument >> with lightning and lost its ethernet port. The “new" computer developed a >> problem during 2017 - it shuts itself down after being active for around 5 >> days and requires an SMC reset before restarting. Not very useful for EyeTV >> recording and AppleTV etc. I eventually took it to the Apple Genius Bar for >> repair. Not happy about that experience. Suffice to say they didn’t fix >> it. Hence - - >> >> I bought an SSD Mac mini as my media machine. Stays powered on 24/7 for >> EyeTV recording and processing, and for Apple TV. Most data (movies etc) >> are on an external high capacity hard drive. Hence - - >> >> The 2009 Mavericks machine became my kitchen computer which I use it for >> Safari, playing music and occasional Zoom video meetings. I only >> occasionally shut it down even 'tho it is a gas guzzler compared to the >> later model Macs. >> >> Yes, Ronni, I did Restore (almost) the whole system! >> >> I will restore the Music folder from the SuperDuper backup. I will check >> out the computer and prepare it for High Sierra. May take a few days. >> >> What is your advice for the next step? Try a new App Store download? >> >> Cheers >> Alan >> >> >>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 7:58 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Alan, >>> >>> I asked you to Restore the whole system! It will take much longer than >>> 20mins. >>> >>>>>> Restore the complete contents of your hard drive from the Time Machine >>>>>> backup you did before you commenced trying to upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>>> Or Restore from the SuperDuper you did before you commenced trying to >>>>>> upgrade to High Sierra. >>> >>> Time Machine automatically backs up your entire Mac, including system >>> files, applications, accounts, preferences, email messages, music, photos, >>> movies, and documents. >>> >>> Restore From Time Machine Backup: Restore your Mac from an external hard >>> drive or Time Capsule that contains a Time Machine backup >>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201250> of your Mac. >>> >>> How to restore your hard drive from a Time Machine backup >>> Whether you're having major problems with your current hard drive or >>> upgrading to a new Mac, Time Machine can help you get back to business. >>> >>> Power up your Mac and hold down the Command and R keys to enter the macOS >>> Recovery Partition. Your Mac should boot to a screen that says macOS >>> Utilities. >>> Select Restore from Time Machine Backup and click Continue. >>> Read the info on the Restore Your System page and click Continue. >>> Select your Time Machine backup and click Continue. >>> Select the most recent backup of your hard disk and click Continue. >>> Your Mac will then restore the Time Machine backup; once it's done it will >>> restart. >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>> >>> >>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 7:07 am, Alan Smith <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> Correction and update! >>>> >>>> There is probably no missing data or folders. I forgot that ~/Music is >>>> excluded from TM backups. Also I don’t use Mail on this iMac so the >>>> Contacts app would have no cards. Sorry for this. I assume Recovery Mode >>>> looked at the total history data of Time Machine to calculate the >>>> remaining restoration time. >>>> >>>> I will proceed with normal testing of apps and data - and will wait for >>>> Ronni’s advice before I attempt a new download of High Sierra. >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 6:23 am, Alan Smith <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>> >>>>> I did a restore from Time Machine via Recovery mode for data at 25 April, >>>>> but got a strange outcome. >>>>> >>>>> After about 20 minutes with around 15% restore and estimated 2 hours >>>>> remaining, I got the “Restore Succeeded” window with a “Restart to >>>>> Continue" banner. This proceeded normally to login and then to prompts >>>>> similar to a new OS installation. >>>>> >>>>> The desktop display looked normal superficially. The Dock showed some >>>>> apps that had been removed some time ago. The Finder sidebar showed the >>>>> default options, not my preferences. >>>>> >>>>> I opened a few apps. Some seemed OK but Contacts only has 2 cards >>>>> (Apple inc and Me) and iTunes gave a “no library found” message. The >>>>> “Music” folder in the Home directory is empty - no iTunes folders! >>>>> Finder shows 975GB available on the 1TB hard drive. I was expecting >>>>> around 850GB free. iTunes would probably account for most of the missing >>>>> data - say 65GB music plus some movies and videos. >>>>> >>>>> I have not attempted any data recovery or conducted detailed tests of >>>>> apps. I will wait for your comments before I proceed. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 27 Apr 2018, at 8:13 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alan, >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27 Apr 2018, at 6:21 pm, Alan Smith <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It might be best to go back and install the backup you did in >>>>>>>> Mavericks 10.9.5 before you commenced trying to upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you mean reinstall the OS via the Recovery utility or a complete >>>>>>> copy of OS and data from Time Machine (or Super Super)? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Restore the complete contents of your hard drive from the Time Machine >>>>>> backup you did before you commenced trying to upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>>> Or Restore from the SuperDuper you did before you commenced trying to >>>>>> upgrade to High Sierra. >>>>>> >>>>>> The SuperDuper Manual will show you How To Restore from SD Backup. >>>>>> If you need more details I did a PDF Tutorial for a client some time >>>>>> back … "How to Restore from a SuperDuper! Backup.pdf” >>>>>> If you need details how to "Restore the complete contents of your hard >>>>>> drive from a Time Machine backup” I’ll post details to the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been doing support work since 5:30am this morning, so I’m now >>>>>> signing off for tonight. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>>> >>>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >>>>>> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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