On Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 10:07:36 PM, Dennis Schridde wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 20:16:48 schrieb Roman:
>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 7:32:45 PM, Dennis Schridde wrote:
>> > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 19:20:43 schrieb Giel van Schijndel:
>> >> Dennis Schridde schreef:
>> >> > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 17:45:26 schrieb Roman:
>> >> >> I obviously have to use player0.slo and player0.vlo file when testing
>> >> >> Aivolution:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Step 1: copy player0.slo and player0.vlo files into mod folder
>> >> >> Step 2: Replace 0 with X in player0.slo
>> >> >> Step 3: Add .in exntention to playerX.slo
>> >> >> Step 4: Replace 0 with X in player0.vlo
>> >> >> Step 5: Add .in exntention to playerX.vlo
>> >> >> Step 6: open playerX.slo.in for editing
>> >> >> Step 7: replace script "player0.slo" with script "playerX.slo"
>> >> >> Step 8: replace "player INT 0" with "player INT X"
>> >> >
>> >> > I would propose doing it differently:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1: Do some fun editing in playerX.slo.in
>> >> > 2: Run make
>> >> > 3: Have fun
>> >> >
>> >> > I guess there must be some reason why this is impossible... Why?
>> >>
>> >> Yes, there is. There simply isn't an immediate alternative to "sed" on
>> >> Windows systems, and as such this proces is not as easy to automate on
>> >> windows as it is on GNU/Linux.
>> >
>> > Aha, so that's what's this about.
>> > I wondered why one would want to work reversed, creating changes in the
>> > autogenerated files and transforming them into templates.
>> You know AI creation is a bit different, I guess this is not
>> self-explanatory. Sometimes all 8 copies will differ for testing or
>> bug-hunting purposes for example. What you are suggesting may make perfect
>> sense to you, because you are judging based on your own experience, my
>> experience tells me it will be arsy-versy. Even with make it is more
>> convenient for me to work on 1 master copy of AI files, then copy-paste the
>> result into mod folder (and trash other copies which are not necessarily
>> the same) and simply let Make replicate them, not vice-versa.
> Can you picture your workflow and how you would like it to be?
Well I already said what works best, to be able to drag and drop a slo/vlo pair
is the most convenient way until we find a better way to deal with the player
variable.
> Currently I understand it like this:
> 1. work in up to 8 different AIs
> 2. tune them
> 3. select the best
> 4. take that file and copy it as player0.* into the SVN dir
> 5. edit the variables, since it may not have been player0 before
> 6. commit
> Is this correct now?
This is more or less correct.
Since we have sorted it out I think it is not necessary to go into great
details anymore.
>> > Simple answer would have been: '"Run make" does not do what it should,
>> > since sed is not available.'
>> It would have been as simple as that if I could imaging you could forget
>> I'm a Windows and MSVC user, but since I know you are aware of this I
>> thought you were not understanding something else, what exactly I didn't
>> know.
> I just assumed you somehow integrated the Makefiles into your workflow.
> I didn't forget you or your tools. :)
> As you sound pissed, I apologize.
No need to apologize, usually our teamwork works quite well. But you know, what
I really can live without is any form of mentorship. After a while it can
become annoying. Another thing I can live without are attempts to order me
about, unless it is my boss I signed a contract with and who pays me monthly
salary.
When all of this cumulate it can indeed piss off.
> I was under the assumption you used the
> Makefiles to speed up your work, not that they would slow you down. Thus I
> tried to guess your workflow and model the scripts after that.
> Apparently my assumption and your reality did not match...
> --Dennis
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