>From what I see in the GitHub repository at https://github.com/jorkey/WaveImport - all third party libraries there are already included in the WIAB distribution.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Kirill Kostyuchenko <kisel2...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hello Christian! > > I hired Andrew Kaplanov for full time WIAB development. My company use > GWave now heavily. > He decided not commit WaveImport (https://github.com/jorkey/WaveImport) > utility to WIAB main tree, because it need many third party libraries. > That's why you did not see my name on the commiters list. > > So, I'm interested in speed up and I could create my own site with public > donations. > Could you offer some tools for this goal? > > 2012/1/12 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> > > > Hello, > > > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Kirill Kostyuchenko > > <kisel2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The situation with WIAB is different from usual opensource project. > > > There are a lot of Google Wave users (I think 50k+) waiting for some > > > alternative. > > > > Similar to OpenOffice.org > > > > > My idea is to publish tasks developers working at on WIAB main page and > > let > > > each developer put donate button there. I want to speed up WIAB > > development > > > and it is clear that there will be more developers if they could get > > > financial support from future users. > > > > > > As far as I understand ASF doen't forbid such practice. If so my idea > > could > > > help to speed up development. > > > > As Upayavira already mentioned, the ASF does not collect money for > > third parties or other developers. You can move one level up and > > dicuss this on gene...@incubator.apache.org again. I think you'll get > > similar responses. > > > > There is a similar case with Team OpenOffice.org on the OpenOffice.org > > mailinglist. TOOo collects donations for their developers on their own > > website. The requirement is people need to understand TOOo is not ASF > > and that AOOo will not die just because people do not donate to third > > party devs. > > > > In your case, I even don't see the developers name on the committer > > list. I think the best first step would be to become an active > > committer in this community and set up an own website, not conflicting > > with the ASF branding guidelines > > > > Cheers > > Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/1/12 Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> > > > > > >> Kirill, > > >> > > >> Firstly, it is great that you are planning to contribute to Wave. > > >> > > >> We tend not to announce things before they have happened, so we don't > > >> tend to announce that someone has joined a project. > > >> > > >> As to donations to a developer, we all need food, and many of us make > > >> our living based upon connections we made at Apache. As a registered > > >> non-profit, Apache can't be seen to favour one person above another, > so > > >> placing adverts for donations on the site itself if problematic. > > >> > > >> What I would say, though, is that you should start to participate > here. > > >> Ask around for suggestions of missing features/weaknesses and start > > >> contributing. Do that sufficiently, and you'll be offered commit > rights > > >> so you can work actively on the application yourself. > > >> > > >> There's nothing at all to stop you using contacts you make here to > find > > >> work/projects. All that is required is that you are sensitive to the > > >> needs of the project, and that you recognise that most people aren't > > >> here to talk about financial issues. > > >> > > >> Welcome, I look forward to seeing your contributions to the project! > > >> > > >> Regards, Upayavira > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 01:13 AM, Kirill Kostyuchenko wrote: > > >> > Hello Christian, > > >> > > > >> > I read http://apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html and > > >> > http://apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html again > > >> > and did not found that donations to specific developers prohibited. > > >> > > > >> > I was thinking, that donation to ASF and specific developers is > > different > > >> > thing and it's allowed by ASF rules. > > >> > > > >> > If donations prohibited, please remove this button and just publish > > some > > >> > news on the main page, > > >> > becouse the project seems dead with current main page. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > 2012/1/11 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Christian Grobmeier > > >> > > <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > Hello Kirill, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Kirill Kostyuchenko > > >> > > > <kisel2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> I think many people want to continue use WIAB after Google Wave > > for > > >> > > their > > >> > > >> needs. We hired Andrew Kaplanov fulltime to implement critical > > >> features. > > >> > > >> I want WIAB main page visitors to understand that work is in > > >> progress > > >> > > and > > >> > > >> they are able to speed up things. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I kindly ask developers to add tasks they are working at to > > "Current > > >> > > Status" > > >> > > >> section I have added to WIAB's main page. Please apply this > > patch to > > >> > > main > > >> > > >> page to show visitors that work is in progress. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I am afraid this patch cannot be applied as it contains a > donation > > >> > > > link to your email address. The ASF is very strict about > > donations. > > >> > > > Please read more here: > > http://apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Also this page is to track status on the ASF Wave project. Links > > to > > >> > > > third party tools, libs, books etc usually are noted on the > > projects > > >> > > > website, if the developers agree to publish them. > > >> > > > > >> > > I am sorry, i mixed pages up. Of course, the page you referenced > is > > >> > > not the status page. Nevertheless the rest of the email is > correct. > > >> > > > > >> > > It makes sense to read this link in addition: > > >> > > http://apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html > > >> > > This might be of interest for Andrew :-) > > >> > > > > >> > > Cheers > > >> > > Christian > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Cheers > > >> > > > Christian > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -- > > >> > > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > >> > > > https://www.timeandbill.de > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > >> > > https://www.timeandbill.de > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > https://www.timeandbill.de > > >
