HI Alex, We're not meaning to step on any toes, far from it :)
Just postulating possibilities. James On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey all, > It's great to see your support for the protocol. We don't want to leave you > hanging but please give us a little time to sort ourselves out. > Cheers, > Alex > > On 6 August 2010 17:06, James Purser <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm happy to present both options to Google, and remember, that's who >> we need to bring on board with regards to the rest of the code and >> information. >> >> James >> >> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Dave butlerdi <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Apache would insure a greater number of contributors and Wave is already >> > incorporated in several >> > projects such as Shindig. Apache projects have the advantage of good >> > exposure and due to the >> > organisational infrastructure it instills a greater degree of >> > confidence. >> > >> > Hadoop was the last project I have worked with to move to Apache, but >> > CouchDB and others have >> > also done well. Others such as River(Jini) have not fared well but that >> > community was stagnent long >> > before. >> > >> > In order to increase adoption and to get fresh ideas into this project I >> > would think that Apache is best. >> > >> > Just my .02€ >> > >> > On 6 August 2010 08:47, dougx <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Creating a foundation ala wiki foundation, mozilla foundation, apache >> >> foundation involves considerably more than simply creating a new >> >> source archive on github; servers, website, incorporation, graphic >> >> design, etc. Even if you crowd source much of the work, there are >> >> costs involved at various levels in setting something like that up. >> >> >> >> Perhaps folding it in as an apache incubator project (as suggested) is >> >> a better idea. >> >> >> >> Personally I think something along the lines of the google summer of >> >> code would be neat; small (but not insignificant) funding to >> >> students / research groups to participate and develop / add to the >> >> project. Perhaps even directly pass any raised capital to the soc >> >> group, with the caveat that those funds are ear marked for wave- >> >> related projects for next years summer of code. >> >> >> >> ~ >> >> D. >> >> >> >> On Aug 6, 12:31 pm, Brett Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I'm curious what you'd be seeing as the primary responsibilities of >> >> > said >> >> > fund? >> >> > >> >> > What problems would you want to tackle that Google hasn't on it's >> >> > 10M+ a >> >> > year budget? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM, dougx <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > Perhaps someone (in the US) could start a kickstarter fund for >> >> > > setting >> >> > > up a wave foundation? >> >> > >> >> > > Probably best to wait until we get official word from the google >> >> > > guys >> >> > > on what's happening, but I'd support a wave foundation to keep this >> >> > > stuff going. >> >> > >> >> > > ~ >> >> > > Doug. >> >> > >> >> > > On Aug 5, 11:20 pm, ThomasWrobel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Would it be a good idea to have some sort of forum or area for >> >> > > > all >> >> > > > people/groups currently working on their own WFP servers? >> >> > > > Kinda help foster collaboration between them? or to help form a >> >> > > > the >> >> > > > begins of a foundation? >> >> > > > Might be an idea to try to contact all the various groups >> >> > > > (pygowave, >> >> > > > ruby on sails, Process One..) and get some discussions going. >> >> > >> >> > > > On Aug 5, 3:23 pm, ThomasWrobel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > > I agree with much said. >> >> > > > > From my own viewpoint though, it would help if it was a lot >> >> > > > > easier >> >> > > > > to >> >> > > > > set up Wave servers and federate them. >> >> > > > > Part of the USP is its distributed nature, yet there really >> >> > > > > isn't >> >> > > > > much >> >> > > > > federation going on at all at the moment. >> >> > >> >> > > > > Too many people (imho) saw Wave just as a website. A front end >> >> > > > > by >> >> > > > > google for a "thing" and nothing more. >> >> > > > > As soon as theres a few clients (online and standalone), >> >> > > > > servers >> >> > > > > and >> >> > > > > GUIs about all communicating on the standard I think the whole >> >> > > > > concept and power of the WFP would come across much better. >> >> > >> >> > > > > On Aug 5, 5:24 am, James Purser <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > > > What I would love to see is something like the Apache >> >> > > > > > foundation >> >> > > setup >> >> > > > > > for Wave. Google to open up as much code as they can and dump >> >> > > > > > it >> >> > > > > > to >> >> > > > > > the foundation along with responsibility for the various >> >> > > > > > specs >> >> > > > > > and >> >> > > > > > protocols. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > Has anyone heard from Novell or SAP about their own Wave >> >> > > > > > offerings? >> >> > > > > > Getting them involved can only help keep the tech and ideas >> >> > > > > > behind >> >> > > > > > wave going. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > James >> >> > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > > Groups >> >> > > "Wave Protocol" group. >> >> > > To post to this group, send email to >> >> > > [email protected]. >> >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]<wave-protocol%2bunsubscr...@goog >> >> > > legroups.com> >> >> > > . >> >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Brett Morganhttp://www.google.com/profiles/brett.morgan >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "Wave Protocol" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > Dave Butler >> > butlerdi-at-pharm2phork-dot-org >> > >> > Also on Skype as pharm2phork >> > >> > Get Skype here http://www.skype.com/download.html >> > >> > >> > ********************************************************************** >> > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >> > are addressed. 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