I'm happy to present both options to Google, and remember, that's who
we need to bring on board with regards to the rest of the code and
information.

James

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Dave butlerdi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Apache would insure a greater number of contributors and Wave is already
> incorporated in several
> projects such as Shindig. Apache projects have the advantage of good
> exposure and due to the
> organisational infrastructure it instills a greater degree of confidence.
>
> Hadoop was the last project I have worked with to move to Apache, but
> CouchDB and others have
> also done well. Others such as River(Jini) have not fared well but that
> community was stagnent long
> before.
>
> In order to increase adoption and to get fresh ideas into this project I
> would think that Apache is best.
>
> Just my .02€
>
> On 6 August 2010 08:47, dougx <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Creating a foundation ala wiki foundation, mozilla foundation, apache
>> foundation involves considerably more than simply creating a new
>> source archive on github; servers, website, incorporation, graphic
>> design, etc. Even if you crowd source much of the work, there are
>> costs involved at various levels in setting something like that up.
>>
>> Perhaps folding it in as an apache incubator project (as suggested) is
>> a better idea.
>>
>> Personally I think something along the lines of the google summer of
>> code would be neat; small (but not insignificant) funding to
>> students / research groups to participate and develop / add to the
>> project. Perhaps even directly pass any raised capital to the soc
>> group, with the caveat that those funds are ear marked for wave-
>> related projects for next years summer of code.
>>
>> ~
>> D.
>>
>> On Aug 6, 12:31 pm, Brett Morgan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I'm curious what you'd be seeing as the primary responsibilities of said
>> > fund?
>> >
>> > What problems would you want to tackle that Google hasn't on it's 10M+ a
>> > year budget?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM, dougx <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > Perhaps someone (in the US) could start a kickstarter fund for setting
>> > > up a wave foundation?
>> >
>> > > Probably best to wait until we get official word from the google guys
>> > > on what's happening, but I'd support a wave foundation to keep this
>> > > stuff going.
>> >
>> > > ~
>> > > Doug.
>> >
>> > > On Aug 5, 11:20 pm, ThomasWrobel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > Would it be a good idea to have some sort of forum or area for all
>> > > > people/groups currently working on their own WFP servers?
>> > > > Kinda help foster collaboration between them? or to help form a the
>> > > > begins of a foundation?
>> > > > Might be an idea to try to contact all the various groups (pygowave,
>> > > > ruby on sails, Process One..) and get some discussions going.
>> >
>> > > > On Aug 5, 3:23 pm, ThomasWrobel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > I agree with much said.
>> > > > > From my own viewpoint though, it would help if it was a lot easier
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > set up Wave servers and federate them.
>> > > > > Part of the USP is its distributed nature, yet there really isn't
>> > > > > much
>> > > > > federation going on at all at the moment.
>> >
>> > > > > Too many people (imho) saw Wave just as a website. A front end by
>> > > > > google for a "thing" and nothing more.
>> > > > > As soon as theres a few clients (online and standalone), servers
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > GUIs about all communicating on the standard I think the whole
>> > > > > concept and power of the WFP would come across much better.
>> >
>> > > > > On Aug 5, 5:24 am, James Purser <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > What I would love to see is something like the Apache foundation
>> > > setup
>> > > > > > for Wave. Google to open up as much code as they can and dump it
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > the foundation along with responsibility for the various specs
>> > > > > > and
>> > > > > > protocols.
>> >
>> > > > > > Has anyone heard from Novell or SAP about their own Wave
>> > > > > > offerings?
>> > > > > > Getting them involved can only help keep the tech and ideas
>> > > > > > behind
>> > > > > > wave going.
>> >
>> > > > > > James
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