Count me in as well in continuing to take part in WFP/FedOne whatever road it takes.
The technology and possibilities are too cool to drop and forget them and I will continue to use and extend it. Maybe there weren't enough users of "Wave" but what WFP/FedOne bring to developing domain specific applications is awesome, even without Federation in a first step. If more and more customers of such domain specific solutions begin to realize what it means to truly collaborate in the web I believe they'll start to change the way they think and hopefully start seeing the bigger scope when it comes to Federation. I truly believe in that... Regards, Andreas On 6 Aug., 09:06, James Purser <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm happy to present both options to Google, and remember, that's who > we need to bring on board with regards to the rest of the code and > information. > > James > > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Dave butlerdi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Apache would insure a greater number of contributors and Wave is already > > incorporated in several > > projects such as Shindig. Apache projects have the advantage of good > > exposure and due to the > > organisational infrastructure it instills a greater degree of confidence. > > > Hadoop was the last project I have worked with to move to Apache, but > > CouchDB and others have > > also done well. Others such as River(Jini) have not fared well but that > > community was stagnent long > > before. > > > In order to increase adoption and to get fresh ideas into this project I > > would think that Apache is best. > > > Just my .02€ > > > On 6 August 2010 08:47, dougx <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Creating a foundation ala wiki foundation, mozilla foundation, apache > >> foundation involves considerably more than simply creating a new > >> source archive on github; servers, website, incorporation, graphic > >> design, etc. Even if you crowd source much of the work, there are > >> costs involved at various levels in setting something like that up. > > >> Perhaps folding it in as an apache incubator project (as suggested) is > >> a better idea. > > >> Personally I think something along the lines of the google summer of > >> code would be neat; small (but not insignificant) funding to > >> students / research groups to participate and develop / add to the > >> project. Perhaps even directly pass any raised capital to the soc > >> group, with the caveat that those funds are ear marked for wave- > >> related projects for next years summer of code. > > >> ~ > >> D. > > >> On Aug 6, 12:31 pm, Brett Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I'm curious what you'd be seeing as the primary responsibilities of said > >> > fund? > > >> > What problems would you want to tackle that Google hasn't on it's 10M+ a > >> > year budget? > > >> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM, dougx <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > Perhaps someone (in the US) could start a kickstarter fund for setting > >> > > up a wave foundation? > > >> > > Probably best to wait until we get official word from the google guys > >> > > on what's happening, but I'd support a wave foundation to keep this > >> > > stuff going. > > >> > > ~ > >> > > Doug. > > >> > > On Aug 5, 11:20 pm, ThomasWrobel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > Would it be a good idea to have some sort of forum or area for all > >> > > > people/groups currently working on their own WFP servers? > >> > > > Kinda help foster collaboration between them? or to help form a the > >> > > > begins of a foundation? > >> > > > Might be an idea to try to contact all the various groups (pygowave, > >> > > > ruby on sails, Process One..) and get some discussions going. > > >> > > > On Aug 5, 3:23 pm, ThomasWrobel <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > I agree with much said. > >> > > > > From my own viewpoint though, it would help if it was a lot easier > >> > > > > to > >> > > > > set up Wave servers and federate them. > >> > > > > Part of the USP is its distributed nature, yet there really isn't > >> > > > > much > >> > > > > federation going on at all at the moment. > > >> > > > > Too many people (imho) saw Wave just as a website. A front end by > >> > > > > google for a "thing" and nothing more. > >> > > > > As soon as theres a few clients (online and standalone), servers > >> > > > > and > >> > > > > GUIs about all communicating on the standard I think the whole > >> > > > > concept and power of the WFP would come across much better. > > >> > > > > On Aug 5, 5:24 am, James Purser <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > What I would love to see is something like the Apache foundation > >> > > setup > >> > > > > > for Wave. Google to open up as much code as they can and dump it > >> > > > > > to > >> > > > > > the foundation along with responsibility for the various specs > >> > > > > > and > >> > > > > > protocols. > > >> > > > > > Has anyone heard from Novell or SAP about their own Wave > >> > > > > > offerings? > >> > > > > > Getting them involved can only help keep the tech and ideas > >> > > > > > behind > >> > > > > > wave going. > > >> > > > > > James > > >> > > -- > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > > Groups > >> > > "Wave Protocol" group. > >> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> > > [email protected]<wave-protocol%2bunsubscr...@goog > >> > > legroups.com> > >> > > . > >> > > For more options, visit this group at > >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en. > > >> > -- > >> > Brett Morganhttp://www.google.com/profiles/brett.morgan > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Wave Protocol" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en. > > > -- > > Regards > > > Dave Butler > > butlerdi-at-pharm2phork-dot-org > > > Also on Skype as pharm2phork > > > Get Skype herehttp://www.skype.com/download.html > > > ********************************************************************** > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. 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