Andy ::

Within any of M$ home versions, there really isn't too much tuning that can be done - 
but you can
always set you Win98 box to running with more aggressive characteristics ... 1.) right 
click on
"My Computer" and then Properties, the last tab which I can't recall at the moment (I 
think
Performance) there should be a button for "File System" or simular; within that you 
can set your
system to use available resources in a more aggressive manner. By default it is set to 
"desktop
computer" set it to "network Server" (requires a reboot) ... 2.) install and configure 
TWEAKUI and
remove all the animations and tool tip fadings - essentially anything that makes 
windows look
cooler .... 4.) set your desktop background to black (absence of all colors in a 
monitor), remove
and background image (requires memory to keep there), and remove you screensaver (I 
have always
had better performance and less 'lock-up' occurances ... 5.) run 'sysconfig' from the 
"RUN"
command and on the last tab remove all programs NOT REQUIRED - basically 'systray', 
'explore' and
one 'powerprofile' is all that is required nothing else.

Now with Windows 200 Professional i have hacked, changed and totally redone my 
registry settings
(don't attempt unless your are an expert or want to reinstall everything), so my win2k 
pro boxes
all scream. I never have experienced a lock-up or crash on any of box or servers.

And yes Linux is looking better everyday, but for most it just isn't there and won't 
be for a
while, but i can always dream

Scott


--- "Trusz, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, Scott. Nice to know I remembered at least part of it correctly. And
> always good to learn new things. Not enough to make me go back to 98 but
> still good to know. I'll keep fumbling through on Linux for the foreseeable
> future.
> 
> So that would make the freezing problem most likely a result of the "home
> edition" nature of windows 98. Most likely manifesting itself in terms of
> resource limitations? Which is to say the 'cure' is to not open as many high
> usage programs and reboot when stuck.
> 
> Would be interesting to do a performance analysis and some tuning but that
> isn't the easiest thing to do with windows. 
> 
> andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott [mailto:fastdslscott@;yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Programs won't close
> 
> 
> Andy ::
> 
> Your are correct in saying it is not a limit, but there once was a published
> M$ EOM Reseller
> Program "Tech-Doc" that stated ... more than 196Mb of Memory would not
> achieve an increase level
> of performance due to the limitations of the Win95 platform; and furthermore
> that in Win98 release
> 1 - that more than 196Mb could cause decreased performance on that platform
> with most Appz. 
> 
> Now, Win98SE was supposed to fix this issue (decrease of performance); the
> company that I worked
> for as a Network Architect/Engineer issued a memo detailing the 196Mb Memory
> Limitations in win
> 95/98 OS machines. The document was printed directly off the M$ OEM Reseller
> Program web site. I
> am still a M$ OEM Authorized Reseller, but I have been unable to locate that
> Tech-Doc on their OEM
> site. The document additionally stated that, systems needing more than
> 196-256 Mb of memory should
> be on the NT platform. A lot of companies used (and still do) use a
> "HOME-USER" designed platform
> (win9x/ME/XP Home Edition) as the OS for employees ... again this platform
> was (and still is)
> designed for the casual home user in mind, not to be used for business level
> workstations.  
> 
> I personally cannot understand why (except for price) why anyone in a
> business/programer/design
> environment would use a "HOME" version OS ... [I know I will probably get a
> ton of disagreement,
> but side-by-side the NT platform out performs the home versions in every way
> possible ... hands
> down) ... I still have clients that use win9x/ME/XP Home; they have all
> kinds of issues from FAT32
> errors, corrupted system files, applications conflicts, bad or inccorect
> drivers that occur out of
> thin air - on the other hand ... my clients on the NT platform are usually
> (there are always M$
> problems) problem free with NO or little down-time experianced running some
> really aggressive
> appz; like AVID, MAYA, 3DMAX, LIGHTWAVE, AUTO-CAD, VisualBasic Enterprises,
> and JAVA/C/C++
> compliers. So, personally I believe that indiviuals using their PC's for
> business uses shouldn't
> use anything else ... 
> 
> Well, I have said my piece ... but, OS vs. Hardware relationships are a
> mystery themselves. PC
> repair is not a science, nor will it ever be. You take your car in to the
> mechanic because it
> doesn't run right. Well, if he is good, he is still only guessing at what
> the problem is. If he is
> good, then you have a better chance he will get it right the first time, but
> that is still no
> guarantee; the same with PC's. You can build 100 with all identical hardware
> and OS's, installed
> in the same manner, same time and they will all react differently from each
> other ....
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Scott Abbotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would still maintain that you could load Win98 on a new, FAT32 system
> > with plenty of CPU and bus speed, and the additional memory would help
> > considerably.  You can always manage the swap file yourself..  I would
> > bet that this memory issue is directly related to the hardware
> > configuration of the system.
> > 
> > Any documentation on this, Andy?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trusz, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.Trusz@;ssa.gov] 
> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:36 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Programs won't close
> > 
> > 
> > Scott, it's not a limit. Win98 works most efficiently with 196 or less.
> > Additional memory provides a decreasing rate of return. It won't hurt to
> > go to 512; it just won't help as much as you think. As I recall it has
> > to do with the manner in which win98 manages memory.  After 196 it gets
> > "muscle
> > bound": big, maybe impressive but not terribly usable.
> > 
> > andy
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Abbotts [mailto:sabbotts@;bellatlantic.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:38 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Programs won't close
> > 
> > 
> > I've never heard of this 196mb limit other than on this forum.  I've
> > just searched web for information on this, and I conclude that it is
> > probably a myth.  Someone please prove me wrong.
> > 
> > It would not be the OS that limits physical memory, only the virtual
> > memory if you set it manually.  Physical memory and cache constraints
> > would more likely be related to the motherboard or CPU.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cheryl D. Wise [mailto:cdwise@;wiserways.com] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:53 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Programs won't close
> > 
> > 
> > Jan,
> > 
> > The 196 limit is for Windows 98. I'm running a gig on my primary desktop
> > and 386 on my laptop. I wouldn't run XP with less than 256 if I had a
> > choice. (My partner's laptop unfortunately won't go up to that without
> > removing and replacing all existing ram so he's waiting for the next
> > upgrade cycle- soon).
> > 
> > Cheryl D. Wise
> > WiserWays
> > Office: 713.353.0139
> > Mobile: 713.412.0406
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jan Major
> > >
> > 
> > Someone on this list told me to not go over 196MB because he said there
> > wouldn't be much difference after that.  The maximum I can have with
> > this computer is 256MB, and have been seriously thinking about
> > installing more memory up to that amount.  If it helps, all the better.
> > 
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