Pam,
I'm sorry to hear that you have crossed paths with this woman, Victoria Ring.
She is well known in the home-based marketing arena as a liar, crook, fraud,
I don't need to go on. I don't believe that she is an innocent bystander in
this
case. I hope you can find a way to fight this. If Ms. Ring has recently
aquired any decency, she will remove your graphics from her Web site
immediately and stop citing "rulings" that, in my opionion, were kept handy,
just in case she got caught. I'm not surprised that your letter had no effect.
And you can probably forget about getting help from her to turn in a fellow
thief.
She may have left her scandalous life behind her. If so, Amen, and Lord,
forgive
me, but this is her chance to prove it.
Luana (who doesn't need to flaunt her Christianity in the name of sales)
Howard
At 01:51 AM 9/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>This is a current problem I am having. I am really getting
>tired of these types of problems but what are we supposed
>to do about it if we don't have legal representation? I
>can't afford to send a lawyer after evey one of these that
>I find. Usually a letter like the one below is enough to get
>the images removed. Here it doesn't seem that that will work.
>My question has to do with this statement:
>
>>Additionally, according to Internet rulings -- as long as graphics are
>>not sold and no profit is made from them, everything is royalty free.
>>People use our graphics all the time and we are not concerned. In fact,
>>we think of it as a compliment.
>
>What internet ruling is she eluding to?
>
>
>
>>Pambytes wrote:
>>
>>> Below is a copy of an e-mail that I sent to you on 9/8/98
>>> for which I have not received any reply. In the off chance
>>> that you did not receive it I am sending it again.
>>>
>>> Pam
>>>
>>> >Hi,
>>> >
>>> >My name is Pam Gibson and I own a free graphics site at
>>> >http://www.pambytes.com/
>>> >
>>> >One of my users pointed me to your site this morning when she
>>> >had a question about ownership of some of the images that she
>>> >found on both sites. You may not be aware that there are
>>> > copyright restrictions on some of the images that you are
>>> > featuring on your site. I found the following list of copyrighted
>>> >images, owned by me, in your image archives.
>>> >
>>> >This is what I found:
>>> >
>>> >http://youonline.net/freebies/graphics/backgnds/back1.htm
>>> >* http://youonline.net/freebies/graphics/backgnds/rosebord.gif
>
> [Long list of pages and images snipped]
>
>>> >Please remove these images at your earliest convenience.
>>> >
>>> >Thank you,
>>> >
>>> >Pam
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> Pam Gibson - Gibson Grafx http://www.ggrafx.com/
>>> Free Web Graphics http://www.pambytes.com/
>
>
>I received this reply from her this evening.
>
>
>>Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:04:54 -0400
>>From: Victoria Ring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Organization: YouOnLine.Net
>>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I)
>>To: Pambytes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: background images
>>
>>Images on our freebie pages were obtained from a CD Rom that we
>>purchased on the internet. We have sent your inquiry to this company and
>>are awaiting their reply. We had no intention of stealing any of your
>>graphics. The CD Rom we purchased said the graphics were "royalty free"
>>and we would be able to use them in any way we saw fit on the Internet,
>>as long as we didn't sell them.
>>
>>Additionally, according to Internet rulings -- as long as graphics are
>>not sold and no profit is made from them, everything is royalty free.
>>People use our graphics all the time and we are not concerned. In fact,
>>we think of it as a compliment.
>>
>>As soon as I hear from the company I will know what to do. Otherwise,
>>the graphics will remain in tact since we are not violating any
>>copyright laws.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Victoria Ring, Publisher, Writer and Designer
>>http://youonline.net/
>>We participate in BARTER/TRADE-OUT services. Let us put your ad
>>out to a 1+ million circulation free!! For complete info, send a
>>BLANK email to <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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