http://www.wacky.org/submit/
this was recommended to me
rick
Rainmaker wrote:
>
> At 12:18 PM 12/6/98 -0600, Peter J. Schoenster so eloquently stated:
> >On 6 Dec 98, at 9:40, Rainmaker wrote:
> >
> >> Some time ago we launched a new service and did some tests. I
> >
> >1.
> >> On one site we submitted it to search engines only. We used
> >> Broadcaster to submit to 200 search engines and were confirmed on 125.
> >
> >2.
> >> On the second we did not submit it to any search engine. Rather
> >> we sent out a press release to approx 800 publication contacts,
> >> a message to prior visitors to another site of ours, and we
> >> mentioned it on some of the newslists that we are on. We also
> >> sent a fax broadcast (off-line) to approx 1,000 people on one of
> >> our fax broadcast lists (don't know if they have Web access or not).
> >
> >> The first week results:
> >>
> >1.Page on search engines - 24 visitors with no orders or e-messages
> >> to us.
> >
> >2.The second site - 997 visitors with 247 e-messages or orders to us.
> >
> >> We dropped the search engine site, and "un-submitted" it on
> >> search engines. IMHO search engines are only good if you have a
> >> branded product or are well-known or you have some free/fun
> >> stuff. For business-to-business, search engines are like a
> >> gigantic Yellow Page directory. I don't know about you, but I
> >> never got any business from the Yellow Pages.
> >
> >George, thanks for the info.
> >
> >Where I work we too send out the press releases. There is even a
> >person who then follows up to get screen shots if the press releases
> >ended up in links or mentions of the website. The referrer log helps
> >a lot with this; we have found that other sites use those sites where
> >we have sent press releases to get new links about new information.
> >
> >The search engine work, though, is really done before the site is
> >ever designed, imho, and I keep trying to convince people of this. A
> >search engine will find your site...no need to submit it. A little
> >work in advance of html hitting the page can help in your "yellow
> >page" listing, which I think will help much more than hurt.
> >
> >How many people are mining their referrer log to get a listing of
> >sites which are dedicated to providing links to focused subjects? My
> >site gets its top hits from pages on other sites that are just pages
> >of links to sites about web programming. A commercial site I have
> >done gets a lot of hits from sites which just provide links to
> >"sweepstakes" pages. Those "sweepstakes" pages consistenly send
> >people to the site and provide fodder for marketing (the quality is
> >probably low and it might be interesting to include in the visitor
> >profile where they came from before they filled out the form; I have
> >done this on another site).
> >
> >But, I still think a page well-designed for search engine ranking is
> >worth the small effort it takes. I agree with George that there are
> >many ways to market your website. My point is that just a little
> >work on the front-end can pay big dividends in the future, because
> >search engine registration is done before the site becomes html.
> >
>
> Not sure I agree. If you put a site to the search engines and it
> is not ready, you risk folks visiting and not coming back.
> Teasers are good if done well. Under construction or coming soon
> doesn't work.
>
> I do agree that it takes a lot of work to keep marketing your
> site. Javlik's S.E. Report is a great tool. While you may know
> who searches you for what based on referrer logs, John's report
> tells you who you missed, i.e., who searched on a keyword that
> you are not using.
>
> George
>
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