How Localization can make the internet as free as radio... And how
to do it.
> That does not mean that trying to use a hammer to drive in a screw is
> a wise decision.
Exactly my point. Using AltaVista to find your local burger joint is
like using a hammer on a screw!
> > Ah, but now we get to the key point. Topology. Topology is related
> > to, but not an exact mapping of, geography.
> Internet location (IP address, etc.) provides no information
> about geographical location. THERE IS NO GENERAL MAPPING from
> any of: domain name, MX record, IP address to geography.
Who said anything about _MY_ IP number??? I am driving down the
highway in my motor home. We are only interested in the (approximate)
nearest IP number for something that can serve "burger". (Not that I eat
burgers, but that is where the money is.) My IP number is irrelevant.
What is relevant, is how many nodes the request travels. The network _IS_
the intelligence. And since DNS is what has mappings of names to IP
address, thus it is logically what will give me that answer. Here is how:
I issue http://burger. My browser sees it isn't a domain, so first
tries adding .loc, or some such thing. (Or maybe it just passes it on.)
The request goes up the hierarchy, through some limited number of DNS
caches. Several reply with the equivalent of burger: N hops, hh.hh.hh.hh
The answers propagate to my browser. After a few seconds, my browser
requests the home page of the one for the lowest value of hops.
Is it perfect? No. But... What is the purpose? To get someone to a
local-business commercial establishment, a burger joint. Given that as a
goal, (and a revenue source,) what similar technological solutions can we
compare this to?
This is a form of broadcast advertising. Consider KGO radio, with
transmission towers in the San Francisco Bay. (Towers actually located on
an island in the bay.) With the power of their station at night, they
radiate programs advertising for local restaurants and used car dealers
(and a lot of other things,) to everyone from Canada to Mexico. How many
of them are local enough to visit that restaurant or car dealer? How many
even in the market for a car or dinner that night? So for local
merchants, radio advertising is really a bad deal! Not surprising, just
look at the ratio of specific outlet adds vs product ads that leave it up
to you to figure out where the product is. By you analogy, advertising
via radio would be so worthless that no retailer would buy radio
advertising at all. Yet that is how radio pays for itself.
Burger.loc is up for bids. Wendys.loc is a trade name, but it is
still up to the trademark holder to pay for it and decide which
approximation is served where. They need to get customers to find them!
Businesses which do not advertise, tend not to last long. This gets a
business specific, local, motivated customers FAR better than radio can
ever hope to.
> > The organization which figures out how to modify DNS for topological
> > name service, will reap a rich reward. Guess it won't be you,
>
> It won't be *anybody*. DNS does not address this problem, and cannot
> be modified to do so. (Neither do any of the existing routing
> algorithms, by the way.)
So? So maybe it can not do this NOW, not with CURRENT algorithms.
(Though it CAN be done with HOST files to some extent.) When did progress
end? Since when has internet technology been static?
All that is needed is a hop counter and maybe a propagation limit.
Not much more. My caching DNS server gets one burger:xx.xx.xx.xx,4 hops,
and another one for burger:yy.yy.yy.yy,2 hops, It caches the 2 and
discards the 4. Next time it is asked, it respond with with the 2 version,
probably with the number of hops it took to get to me as a starting
number.
Is it perfect? Heck no! Is it better for the site holders than
radio advertising or hitting AltaVista? Very Considerably so! Is it more
convenient for the users than wading through a bunch of search engine
pages for local-market products like pizza and burgers? Very much so!
So what does it take to suggest this as an improved set of DNS
protocols? If it picks up anything like radio, ISP's might even make
enough money selling words that Internet access might even become free!
Use your imagination, all the other inventors do. Then they work
hard to turn their imaginations into reality, usually for the benefit of
the rest of humanity. (Or humanity simply won't buy their invention.)
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