> Anjo should change his surname to Anjo Frank.

You should talk. At least I have one :P

To be clear: one of the selling points of Roo as no lock-in. You can use any 
number of JPA providers, you get code generated which you can customize pretty 
well via aspect-j (a part of which I would like to see in EO generator so one 
remove the weird _Foo classes) and you get this without any runtime jars at all.

So it's not D2W, but it's probably good enough to be workable. And given a 
certain company's abysmal track record in supporting enterprise software, it 
*might* be good enough for some to be actually considered as an viable 
alternative for WO/EOF. 

Cheers, Anjo

Am 11.11.2010 um 10:21 schrieb Karl:

> Anjo should change his surname to Anjo Frank.
> 
> We really appreciate (this is true Anjo) his honesty.
> 
> Karl
> 
> On 2010-11-11, at 12:15 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
> 
>> And the ORM can't cache relationships and doesn't have an EC? Great... 
>> 
>> I was the google developer day the other day and they presented SpringRoo. 
>> Most of the people there thought it was the coolest thing things sliced 
>> bread... little do they know.
>> 
>> Cheers, Anjo
>> 
>> 
>> Am 11.11.2010 um 09:44 schrieb Marius Soutier:
>> 
>>> Scala is not only for concurrency, it's simply a better language than Java 
>>> (IMHO). I'm still not 100% convinced of Actors, and java.util.concurrent is 
>>> also very good.
>>> 
>>> Ok now I have to ask it - if you don't use EOF, why use WebObjects at all? 
>>> Does D2W work seamlessly with Squeryl? Do you have an example project for 
>>> that?
>>> 
>>> - Marius
>>> 
>>> On 10.11.2010, at 23:41, Ravi Mendis wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Marius,
>>>> 
>>>> As mentioned in the wiki, i don't see much advantage in just using Scala 
>>>> as a replacement for Java (in WebObjects).
>>>> At wowodc 10 i presented the case for Scala in concurrent WO applications.
>>>> 
>>>> Now i've another suggestion :)
>>>> 
>>>> One of the benefits of Scala is being able to use the new breed of 
>>>> SQL-like DSL languages for data access. E.g: Squeryl.
>>>> (It's by no means the only one out there).
>>>> 
>>>> I've just added a set of EO templates that can help migrate your EO model 
>>>> -> Squeryl.
>>>> See: 
>>>> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/WebObjects+and+Squeryl
>>>> 
>>>> FYI: the templates aren't quite finished yet: i've only implemented 
>>>> features i'm using for my next project...
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ravi
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/11/2010, at 7:09 AM, Marius Soutier wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've spent the day with Scala and D2W, after increasing Eclipse's memory 
>>>>> to 1 GB it worked ok. I've made a small adjustment to your EO templates 
>>>>> so the statics are defined in a trait rather than an object, e.g.
>>>>> 
>>>>> trait EntityNameStatics {
>>>>>   val ENTITY_NAME = "EntityName"
>>>>>           
>>>>>            object Keys {
>>>>>           // Attributes
>>>>>           // Relationships
>>>>>   }
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now the companion objects can both inherit the statics from the trait, 
>>>>> like this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> object base.EntityName extends EntityNameStatics
>>>>> 
>>>>> object EntityName extends EntityNameStatics
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10.11.2010, at 12:14, Ravi Mendis wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The scala ide for Eclipse 3.5 is much improved. Yes, it still might be a 
>>>>>> little slow, but it's tolerable...if only to be able to use the 
>>>>>> wonderful Scala tools and libraries that have started to emerge. E.g: 
>>>>>> Squeryl, ScalaTest, Specs, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You'll have to ask Pascal about the WOWODC 10 screencasts...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Marius Soutier wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've been eagerly following your progress with Scala and WebObjects. 
>>>>>>> I'd really love to move to Scala in my company, the sooner the better. 
>>>>>>> However my biggest concern is the Eclipse plug-in, it's so slow and 
>>>>>>> buggy (on a Mac at least). Do you have any suggestions for that?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you have an idea when your screencast will be released?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> - Marius
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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