Le 2011-09-26 à 13:23, Marius Soutier a écrit : > But there are also good programmers who don't want to use WebObjects. They > are interested, but they don't want to do it all-day long. They prefer stuff > like Sinatra, Clojure, and so on, which gives them more freedom of choice on > how to solve their problems.
And probably because they can modify the source... > On 26.09.2011, at 19:19, Paul Yu wrote: > >> Great programmers will always write great code. >> >> Great programmers will write great code faster with great tools. >> >> Bad programmers will always complain that it is not them, but the tools >> fault. >> >> Bad Managers will trump them all... >> >> >> On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:14 PM, David LeBer wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2011-09-26, at 1:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Jim Kinsey wrote: >>>> >>>>> The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with >>>>> some devs who really did not want to engage with WO on any level, no >>>>> matter how they came across in the interview. Years of complaining about >>>>> WO, misusing it in ways which hurt the performance of the system (as the >>>>> last remaining experienced WO developer I often ended up wading in to >>>>> sort it out) and then blaming it on WO without having made the least >>>>> attempt to learn it properly... >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, using WO doesn't make one a great programmer (^_^) >>>> Misused, WO is just as awful as any other solution. If anything, WO >>>> provides ample opportunity for misuse because there is so much of >>>> WO/Wonder to learn. >>>> >>>> Some devs just don't want to learn. They prefer to reinvent, poorly. >>> >>> Agreed. >>> >>> I don't know how many times I've heard the "this is stupid, just tell me >>> how to get a jdbc connection" comment. >>> >>> -- >>> David LeBer >>> Codeferous Software >>> 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' >>> site: http://codeferous.com >>> blog: http://davidleber.net >>> profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld >>> -- >>> Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: >>> http://tacow.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/pyu%40mac.com >>> >>> This email sent to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/m.soutier%40starhealthcare.info >> >> This email sent to [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca > > This email sent to [email protected] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [email protected]
