On 2011-09-26, at 10:19 AM, Paul Yu wrote: > Great programmers will always write great code. > > Great programmers will write great code faster with great tools.
Then there's that class of programmers that write great tools, THEN write great code with them :-) > > Bad programmers will always complain that it is not them, but the tools fault. > > Bad Managers will trump them all... > > > On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:14 PM, David LeBer wrote: > >> >> On 2011-09-26, at 1:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Jim Kinsey wrote: >>> >>>> The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with some >>>> devs who really did not want to engage with WO on any level, no matter how >>>> they came across in the interview. Years of complaining about WO, misusing >>>> it in ways which hurt the performance of the system (as the last remaining >>>> experienced WO developer I often ended up wading in to sort it out) and >>>> then blaming it on WO without having made the least attempt to learn it >>>> properly... >>> >>> Unfortunately, using WO doesn't make one a great programmer (^_^) Misused, >>> WO is just as awful as any other solution. If anything, WO provides ample >>> opportunity for misuse because there is so much of WO/Wonder to learn. >>> >>> Some devs just don't want to learn. They prefer to reinvent, poorly. >> >> Agreed. >> >> I don't know how many times I've heard the "this is stupid, just tell me how >> to get a jdbc connection" comment. >> >> -- >> David LeBer >> Codeferous Software >> 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' >> site: http://codeferous.com >> blog: http://davidleber.net >> profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber >> twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld >> -- >> Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: >> http://tacow.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/pyu%40mac.com >> >> This email sent to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx%40mac.com > > This email sent to [email protected] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [email protected]
