Yo David,

I actually agree with this, for the reasons below but also for the
sake of PR, too. When I was first browsing the range of available
Python frameworks I happened upon Webware pretty quickly, but the
version stated 0.8.1 and the page showed that it hadn't been updated
since, like, August 2003. I first thought, well, dead project, and I
was reluctant to give it a go.

I decided, though, that since everything in the (rather scattered)
docs looked exactly like what I was searching for, I should give it a
whirl, and so I sent an email to the mailing list. My question
regarding Webware's maturity was quickly and helpfully answered by a
number of people and I realized that the project was far from dead.
Since that time I've implemented two projects with Webware with great
results.

Even though the new Web site design is up, and it is an improvement,
it would still be nice to see a new version, however, if only to
reflect a recent "last updated" date to the code and to encourage
newcomers to give it a try, as well as giving it a "stamp" with a list
of improvements and new features. This would be nice even if it was
only 0.8.2. I see frequent news in Python Daily and in the Python
Cookbook about Quixote or Nevow, and while I think these frameworks
have quite a lot going for them, I've found Webware to be very
intuitive, even slam-dunk for those familiar with Java-style servlets
and MVC approaches, Struts or Spring.

It would also be good to find out how development is currently going.
Is there a central place to check it out? I just joined the
webware-devel mailing list, but a central place on the Web would be
good, some kind of "roadmap" to see where the developers minds are,
how active they are and where things are going in the future, like
possible integration with PEAK or anything ...

Peace,
Greg

On 28 Jul 2004 10:06:39 -0600, David London <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to start the petition for the release of a new version.
> 
> I've been seeing a number of problems that have been posted to this list
> that all have the same answer, "get the latest version of [some file]
> from the repository".
> 
> While this solution may sit well with some people, there are likely a
> number of us (obviously myself being one of them) who are not able to
> download individual files when installing webware. For myself, this is
> because my company gives the client a list of software that has to be
> installed on their machines. And telling the clients to install webware
> 0.8.1 plus version 1.27 of file X and version 1.13 of file Y, etc, etc,
> etc is just not possible. And since having them install code that has
> not been tested by us/me is not acceptable, telling them to pull the
> latest version from the CVS repository is also not advisable.
> 
> Perhaps this is just being caused by my having to run webware on windows
> machines. But even then I would argue that since the current release of
> webware does not function as expected with the current release of the
> win32all extensions that a change is needed.
> 
> I just spent the last few weeks in a wasted search for the cause of the
> problem that was crashing all of my python processes. I didn't find the
> solution until I gave up on that problem and started working on how to
> get webkit to run as a pythonservice on NT. And even then I only found
> the solution by browsing the repository looking for files that had
> changed between now and the release of version 0.8.1 (It turns out that
> signal.signal does not work with win32all release 163 or greater).
> Perhaps there was a better way for me to investigate the problem, but
> the fact remains that if there had been a newer version of webware that
> included all of the recent bug fixes (most of which are a few months
> old) this would not have happened.
> 
> Thanks for listening/reading and hopefully we will be seeing a new
> release soonish.
> 
> David London
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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